Winter and the Ion

Discussion in 'Saturn ION' started by bosco took, Dec 20, 2004.

  1. bosco took

    bosco took Guest

    I live in Toronto where it frequently drops below 0 degrees fahrenheit.
    I am considering getting a 2005 Ion2. I would appreciate any and all
    feedback as to whether there any problems starting an Ion in such
    temperatures. I own a 2001 SL2 and never have had a problem
     
    bosco took, Dec 20, 2004
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  2. bosco took

    Biker Geek Guest

    single digits fahrenheit and mine started right up. (I'ts an '03
    w/ 10,000 miles on it.) Once I got the door open, that is. (It
    was frozen.)

    I'd really like to see an Ion 3 with seat warmers. They're cheap
    enough to build in, and ghod knows we have the weather conditions
    for it in large swaths of North America. Equip the Ion 3 in cold
    weather states and provinces with a "cold weather package"
    consisting of heated seats, heated mirrors, and heated windshield
    washer nozzles. It'd be kinda nice to see Saturn be the first to
    bring that kind of thing to that market segment.

    Bill
     
    Biker Geek, Dec 21, 2004
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    Blah blah Guest

    This is one reason I'm glad I own a 4 door car now. I got 4 chances,
    instead of 2 in the past, of finding a door that I can actually yank
    open!
     
    Blah blah, Dec 21, 2004
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  4. bosco took

    Biker Geek Guest

    Maybe. If neither of the front ones with the keylock works, and
    you don't have remote keyless entry, you're still hosed.

    On that same trip, I tried to use a drive-through ATM, and found
    taht my driver's side window was frozen shut.

    There's also the possibility of entry through the trunk on the
    Ions, since the seatbacks release from within the trunk rather
    than from within the passenger compartment.
     
    Biker Geek, Dec 22, 2004
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  5. I live in Southern California and I miss the seat warmers in my L300
    already. What I thought would be a useless option (seat warmers)
    turned out to be one of my favorite features. I don't have far to go
    to work and it never gets that cold, but when it's 50 degrees the seat
    warmer is welcome.
     
    Rev Turd Fredericks, Dec 23, 2004
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  6. Just out of curiosity, where in Toronto do you live? I grew up in
    Willowdale (North York).
     
    Rev Turd Fredericks, Dec 23, 2004
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  7. bosco took

    Chris Seal Guest

    Got a 2003 ION 3 Automatic here in Ottawa. Just started its second winter.
    This car is not garaged: it stays in the driveway, so...

    The first winter I found that when the overnight temp dropped to below -30 C
    and the car was driven at this temperature (say, at 7:00 am):
    - the ABS doesn't work
    - the horn doesn't work
    - the driving lights don't switch on (the button to the left of the steering
    column)
    until the engine compartment warmed up.

    Also, driving down the road, the transmission upshifts, get to a sharp bend
    in the road (90 degrees), take foot off gas pedal to slow down, steer around
    the corner, the car downshifts thus applying more torque, and if the corner
    is icey the car suddenly spins if you're not wary!

    I reported this each time the car was in for service: the dealer wouldn't do
    anything because no one else had reported such problems. I had to insist my
    complaint was written on the work order.

    I don't think these cars are intended to be driven north of the state where
    they are made. Also I don't think that the Saturn service in my area is any
    good.
     
    Chris Seal, Dec 24, 2004
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  8. bosco took

    bosco took Guest

    Rev.....I live in Willowdale :)
     
    bosco took, Dec 24, 2004
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  9. bosco took

    bosco took Guest

    pan, place a layer of gravy,
    then one of meat, gravy, and cheese.
    Another layer each of meat, gravy, and cheese.
    Then bake at 350° for 45 minutes.
    Serve on hot pasta with romano cheese.



    Southern Fried Small-fry

    Tastes like fried chicken, which works just as well.
    In fact you may want to practice cutting up whole chickens
    for frying before you go for the real thing.
    Whole chicken is much more efficient and inexpensive than buying pieces.

    1 tiny human, cut into pieces
    2 cups flour
    Onion, garlic
    Salt
    pepper
    garlic powder
    cayenne pepper
    hot sauce, etc.
    Oil for frying

    Mix milk, eggs, hot sauce in a bowl, add chopped onion and garlic.
    Season the meat liberally, and marinate for several hours.
    Place seasoned flour in a paper or plastic shopping bag,
    drop pieces in a few a time, shake to coat thoroughly,
    then deep fry in hot oil (350°) for about 15 minutes.
    Drain and place on paper towels.



    Miscarriage with Mustard Greens

    Why waste it? Otherwise, and in general, use ham or salt pork to season greens.
    The technique of smothering greens can be used with many vegetables;
    green beans work especially well. Meat is not necessary every day, don?t
    be afraid to alter any dish to vegetarian tastes.

    1 premature baby, born dead
    Large bunch of mustard greens
    2 white onions, 1 cup chopped celery
    Vegetable oil (or hog fat)
    Salt, pepper, garlic, etc.

    Lightly brown onions, celery, garlic and meat in large heavy pot.
    Add a little water and the greens (which should be thoroughly cleaned and washed).
    Smother slowly for at least 2 hours, adding small amounts of water
    when it starts to stick.
    Stir frequently.
    When ready - serve with rice, grilled smoked sausage, green salad, and iced tea.
    Coffee and apple pie then brandy.



    Maternity Ward Pot Luck Dinner

    If you can?t get anything fresh from the hospital, nur
     
    bosco took, Dec 25, 2004
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  10. bosco took

    Chris Seal Guest

    add chicken stock and
    allow to simmer for 20 minutes.
    Add the patties or stuffed heads, and some loose crawfish,
    lobster, long piglet, or what have you.
    Cook on low for 15 minutes, then allow it to set for at least
    15 minutes more.
    Serve over steamed rice; this dish is very impressive!



    Stuffed Cabbage Rolls

    Babies really can be found under a cabbage leaf -
    or one can arrange for ground beef to be found there instead.

    8 large cabbage leaves
    1 lb. lean ground newborn human filets, or ground chuck
    Onions
    peppers
    celery
    garlic
    soy sauce
    salt pepper, etc
    Olive oil
    breadcrumbs
    Tomato Gravy (see index)

    Boil the cabbage leaves for 2 minutes to soften.
    In skillet, brown the meat in a little olive oil,
    then add onions, peppers, and celery (all chopped finely)
    and season well.
    Place in a large bowl and cool.
    Add seasoned breadcrumbs and a little of the tomato gravy,
    enough to make the mixture pliable.
    Divide the stuffing among the cabbage leaves then roll.
    Place seam down in a baking pan.
    Ladle tomato gravy on top,
    and bake at 325° for 30 - 45 minutes.



    Umbilical Cordon Bleu

    Nothing is so beautiful as
     
    Chris Seal, Dec 26, 2004
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  11. Cool. Many moons ago I went to AY Jackson Highschool. I am always
    running into willowdillians, even in Southern California. I was at a
    conference at UCLA a few months back. I heard a girl talking in the
    elevator about UofT and I asked her where she is from. "Willowdale"
    she said. Turns out she grew up just on the other side of the train
    tracks from me at Van Horne and Leslie, just a few hundred yards as
    the crow flies. I moved there as a five year old in 1966 and moved
    away in 1991. Who knows, we may have crossed paths at some point.
     
    Rev Turd Fredericks, Dec 26, 2004
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    bosco took Guest

    My son (now 30 )went to AY and we live not too far from it...between
    Leslie and Bayview just south of Steeles
     
    bosco took, Dec 26, 2004
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  13. It truely is a small world isn't it?
     
    Rev Turd Fredericks, Dec 30, 2004
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    David Guest

    Last winter we left our 2000 Saturn LS2 our all day at minus 35; it started
    good, but the system computer limited the speed until the engine was warm
    enough to use the power.
    That is pretty good; at minus 20 our Chyrsler was totally dead.

    We just discovered yesterday that our '95 Chevy had a defective block
    heater. It started good every day; same GM ignition as the the Saturn

    David
     
    David, Dec 31, 2004
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  15. Well, I have an '03 Ion 4 door and live in Edmonton...2 winters now,
    including -40 weather and no problems. Having the battery in the trunk
    helps too...less chance of it freezing up overnight or during a day at
    the office.

    Mike H
     
    Michael Halliwell, Jan 3, 2005
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  16. bosco took

    NoSetFine Guest

    Bad day for me to read THIS one!

    5:45am, -20something°C in an ION 3 and it wouldn't start. Turn the key and
    it gives a brief and reluctant "rrr" then seized up like it was a dead
    battery, except all the lights and fixtures worked fine.

    Tried a couple times after that - nothing (not even the "rrr"). Pushed the
    car into the street, started my wife's HONDA (which started fine) and
    boosted the SATURN, no dice - waited about 3 minutes (with the Honda still
    pumping away), then it finally turned over.

    Cold and pissed and late for work...
    :(
    -e
     
    NoSetFine, Jan 28, 2005
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