WHERE IS THE OIL FILTER on Ecotech 2.2?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Warren, May 20, 2004.

  1. Warren

    Warren Guest

    Okay, okay...I thought I was ready...I had everything together, and thought
    I'd be able to recognize the oil filter housing....WRONG! Where is it you
    guys? What does it look like? On which side of the engine, etc. etc. Should
    I get it from above or below? Is it in the block...or? Thanks ahead of time
    for the info!
    Warren
     
    Warren, May 20, 2004
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  2. Warren

    marx404 Guest

    Open the hood, stand in front of the driver's side near the center and look
    straight dow. See that black screw-on cap there? That is the oil cartridge
    filter. It is now a simple oil cartridge that screws into the engine block
    instead of the old metal external filter. Makes it kinda nice for the do-it
    yourselfer, huh?

    marx404
     
    marx404, May 20, 2004
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  3. Warren

    Blah blah Guest

    Lol yeah this will be a new one for you. Looking from the top of the
    engine compartment standing at the front bumper. Look at the intake
    manifold then look to the right of that and down a little bit. Notice a
    black plastic cap about 3 inches in diameter. Notice a 1 1/4 inch hex
    head on the cap. Remove that cap...hey theres your filter, have a rag
    handy.
    Some things to know for the ecotec:
    - Snap the new filter into the cap or you might crush it when you put it
    together.
    - Do not torque down on that cap as it may break. Just snug it down till
    it stops.
     
    Blah blah, May 20, 2004
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  4. Geee, wasn't that what they had before the spin-on filter was invented?
    IIRC, 'very messy' was the reason why it got displaced by spin ons long
    ago. And spin ons aren't messy unless they're cheap with the design and
    put them horizontal.

    Hey, remember that 80's GM that had it up in the oil pan?
     
    Philip Nasadowski, May 20, 2004
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  5. The Ecotec oil filter design is a lot less messy than most spin-ons I've
    seen - there's not much oil that lingers in that area and the filter snaps
    into the cap so you can just pull it out, pull off the old filter and put in
    the new one.
     
    Robert Hancock, May 21, 2004
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  6. Warren

    C. E. White Guest

    I actaully like the cartridge filter used on the Ecotechs.
    Unlike most people around today, I have had the thrill of
    working with both cartridge and spin-on filters. To be sure,
    the old style cartridge filter could be messy. However, I've
    never seen a spin on that wasn't messy also. I don't care
    what angle you mount them at, some oil always slops over the
    side when you unscrew them. The vertically mounted ones are
    little better than the horizontally mounted one. In fact,
    I've seen severval vertical arrangements that were worse
    than any horizontally mounted filter. The Ecotech filter on
    the otherhand is painless, and very simple to change. Little
    if any oil is spilled when you pull it out of the enclosure.
    I have changes my Vue's oil twice now and have yet to drop
    any oil from the filter on the engine. I'd rate it as the
    easiest car to change oil in since my 1972 Pinto. The Pinto
    has to be number 1, since I could change it's oil without
    even going underneath (I could reach both the pan plug and
    filter from the top of the engine).

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, May 24, 2004
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  7. Warren

    flatline Guest

    I asked the salesman that question on the final walk-around when I
    bought my 2.2L. Vue 3 weeks ago. He was amazed I asked that question,
    since it was the first time anyone asked it of him and he did not even
    know where it was. He had to go find one of the dealership mechanics
    to get an anwer.
    Anyway, I'll probably get the dealer to change the oil for the first
    few times, then I will install the synthetic oil that Valvoline
    recently offered a 100 percent rebate on.
    I changed the oil every 3K miles on my two SW2's. With the new Vues.
    there is no fixed oil change interval anymore and the CPU determines
    when the oil needs to be changed. Does anyone have figures on the
    elapsed mileage when that happens?
     
    flatline, May 25, 2004
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  8. Warren

    Blah blah Guest

    The Oil Life Monitor counts engine rotations. If you drive hard or put
    your engine underload by towing your engine makes more revolutions.
    Other things are factored but thats the major % of it.
     
    Blah blah, May 25, 2004
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  9. Warren

    C. E. White Guest

    Here are several GM web sites that give a more complete
    explanation (sales pitch?).

    http://www.gm.com/company/gmability...es/news/simplified_maintenance_qa_040104.html

    http://service.gm.com/gmtechlink/images/issues/may03/TLMay03e.html#story1

    http://service.gm.com/gmtechlink/images/issues/mar04/TLMar04e.html#story6

    http://service.gm.com/gmtechlink/arcv_pdf/3_00_e.pdf

    From http://service.gm.com/gmtechlink/arcv_pdf/3_00_e.pdf

    "A computer chip in the Powertrain Control Module is loaded
    with a certain number of engine revolution counts. The count
    for each engine/vehicle combination is determined by
    testing. As the engine runs, each revolution is subtracted
    from the remaining count in the oil life monitor. When the
    count reaches zero, the instrument panel light comes on.
    But, here’s the clever part.

    "When the various input sensors detect that the engine is
    running under either cold or hot conditions, it subtracts
    extra counts (penalties)for each engine revolution. So, the
    conditions that cause the oil to "wear out" make the counter
    run down faster."

    Regards,

    Ed White
     
    C. E. White, May 26, 2004
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  10. Warren

    Warren Guest

    Does anyone have figures on the
    My 2004 Quad Coupe just alerted me at 2,466 miles. No trailer towing, no
    hard driving. It was esentially highway. I was really surprised. I do not
    know if age of the oil figures into it (based on the previous setting /
    reset) but the oil was placed in the car at manufacture in October 2003. Due
    to it's age it was due anyways, and besides, I wanted to run synthetic, so
    it was surely time.

    Warren
     
    Warren, May 27, 2004
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