Where Are Saturn Mechanics Missing The Boat?

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Following is a long saga of dealing with P0442 code on a 2000-Saturn
SL2:

Saturn has yet to fix this vehicle with reliability or credibility; the manufacturer doesn't seem to have the answer, either. Problem started 2 days after 3-year warranty was up: Last visit, car was in shop for three days. Car has never been to an outside mechanic. Notice repeat part replacements on this low mileage car. Come 4/1/2005 this car will not pass inspection in New York State. In fairness, Saturn has not charged me, but I can't even get another dealer to take this car as a trade-in.

Any suggestions on what Saturn mechanics failed to do? They claim car passes pressure tests and smoke tests -- that the car is mechanically sound -- that there is no leak.

George

Date Miles Part and Part serial number and job
 
Come 4/1/2005 this car will not pass inspection in New York State. In fairness, Saturn has not charged me, but I can't even get another dealer to take this car as a trade-in.

Saturn can not charge you, because your car is covered under the federally mandated emissions warrenty, and I believe if you bought it new in NY by that time, the California warranty. It's is entirely up to them to fix it. Check the back of your owner's manual, it has this info in there. You shouldn't pay one cent of the costs, period.
Any suggestions on what Saturn mechanics failed to do? They claim car passes pressure tests and smoke tests -- that the car is mechanically sound -- that there is no leak.

Then the car shouldn't be throwing a code and should pass inspection. In any case, It's up to Saturn to fix the problem, on their dime.
 
Just replace a few more parts and I think we can rule out a fuel problem.

BTW, a lot of these parts should be covered under the 100,000 mile emissions warranty.
 
(George)
Following is a long saga of dealing with P0442 code on a 2000-Saturn
SL2:

I forget what that code is and dont have my book in front of me , but from the list of parts there it must be an evap system problem. The one thing not on that list is the filler neck. I ( when I worked there ) had replaced 2 necks for leaks. This was caused by gouging the neck with agas pump nozzle. I will look up the code later ( unless you have the info with you ) .

Evap leaks were pretty easy to find with the super sensitive microphone thing Saturn gave the techs.
 
I forget what that code is and dont have my book in front of me , but from the list of parts there it must be an evap system problem. The one thing not on that list is the filler neck. I ( when I worked there ) had replaced 2 necks for leaks.

Quoting from the original post:

(I can understand how you missed that in the middle of all the other repairs.)
 
You'd think that Saturn would crack down on dealers wasting their money on such parts-swapping (replacing the FTP sensor twice?) If the code is still there, there's obviously still a leak somewhere (since they already replaced the FTP sensor). It could be in any of the vapor lines around the fuel tank or in the engine compartment. They're supposed to be using a smoke generator and ultrasonic leak detector to track down an evaporative leak of this sort.
 
Do all Saturns have a 100K emissions warranty? 1992SL1?

Mike
 
Do all Saturns have a 100K emissions warranty? 1992SL1?

Mike

It is a Federal law that all new cars have a 100,000 mile emissions warranty. Not sure of the time limit but I don't think this extends back to 1992.
 
satyr said:
It is a Federal law that all new cars have a 100,000 mile emissions warranty. Not sure of the time limit but I don't think this extends back to 1992.

My 94 SC1 says 50K or 5 years.

brian
 

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