Wheel thump worries - '96 SW2 wagon?

Discussion in 'Saturn S-series' started by c-bee1, Nov 11, 2006.

  1. c-bee1

    c-bee1 Guest

    Hi all, great to find this group! I'm a total car idiot who got a real
    nice sharp dark green SW2 a while ago, and love it. But I've now got a
    noise coming from one of my wheels, or something associated with them. It
    sounds like it's one of the front wheels, maybe the left front. At highway
    speeds, it sounds like someone on a bongo drum (but not very loud), and as I
    slow to a stop it slows also and the pitch goes down, and at the end, when
    you can hear each one individually and slowly, I get the feeling that each
    thump is made of a bunch of little bumps. (This is listening on new smooth
    blacktop.) It's most pronounced between 25-45mph, and when braking. kinda
    feels like it repeatedly tugs on the brakes a little.

    I thought it was something like a tire blem or a bent rim till I noticed
    they have that 'texture'. Now I'm having fantasies about stuff like mangled
    wheel bearings, or perhaps some expensive "modern parts" I know nothing
    about.

    Anybody know what would do this..? Is it hopefully a maintenance issue
    like horrible alignment or bad tire or something? I'm as clueless as a
    little computer boy can be.
     
    c-bee1, Nov 11, 2006
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    Doug Miller Guest

    Wheel bearing, or possibly a CV (constant-velocity) joint. But most likely a
    wheel bearing IMO. You should have this looked at ASAP -- like, tomorrow. Bad
    wheel bearings have this nasty tendency to seize.
    NO. Get it checked out right away. If it's a wheel bearing going bad, you're
    running a strong risk of a serious accident if it seizes at highway speed.
     
    Doug Miller, Nov 12, 2006
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    James1549 Guest

    First thing I would do is move the front tires to the rear and rear to
    the front and see if noise changes. Eliminate the obvious first.

    James
     
    James1549, Nov 14, 2006
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    c-bee1 Guest

    Thanks James - if the wheel bearing thing doesn't pan out (sounds more
    pressing), I'll do that next. I'm not as mobile as I used to be, so it is
    literally easier to pay the $50 for a diagnosis. =)
     
    c-bee1, Nov 14, 2006
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    c-bee1 Guest

    Sounds like you and my suspicions are on the same page. My old van that
    developed super noisy CVs only made any noise during turns. One brake guy I
    had listen to this one indicated that wheel bearings would usually be a
    steady 'roar', which didn't sound necessarily so to me, but I'm an idiot.
    He put it on his lift and spun the wheels by hand, but it was too noisy in
    there to hear anything. Does the fact that it only happens in a short train
    of pulses once each wheel rotation make any difference, I wonder?

    I got the idea today that my alignment is also probably shot, maybe that's
    why it's in short bursts.
    I'm going to do exactly that, thanks much!
     
    c-bee1, Nov 14, 2006
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  6. i had a similar problem i thaught it was a worped rotor .. that can be
    caused by fast deceleration or breaking hard alot .. but it was a bubble
    in a tire .. u can feel each tire outsides and tread all around or look to
    see any deformed spots good luck
     
    mrjeckellmrhide, Nov 27, 2006
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    wavy Guest

    Try this:
    In a quiet place with the car parked, bounce the bumpers a little with
    your "posterior" and see if you hear the same sound.
    I had "The Bongos" a while back and I think I know exactly what you are
    talking about.
    The problem turned out to be a "squeaky" rubber bushing in the rear
    anti-sway bar assembly.
    Before trying anything expensive - try this and see!

    ON THE OTHER HAND. I also did have a wheel bearing go bad. At some
    point I clobbered a curb during a poorly observed turn and within a
    couple of weeks the front wheel started making a bit of noise. Over
    time it got worse and even developed a high speed wobble. It was tough
    trying to figure out which side it was on. As it turned out - my
    clobbering managed not to break the bearing but that's probably when it
    lost its integral grease seal.
    I finally broke down and paid a mechanic $50 to press out the old and
    press-in the new bearings - he showed me the old one and it was dusty
    and dead. I think I paid $45 for the bearing assembly at Auto Zone.

    However, this sound was a lot more like a "roaring" or mechanical white
    noise.
    The most indicative symptom was a difference in noise and sound level
    depending on the direction of turns. On a long S-curve road at 45mph
    this was particularly noticeable.
    (It was worse as the car's weight leaned it to the left while the turn
    was to the right - the bad bearing was the front left. Also, a very
    difficult replacement for this amatuer.)
    -WaV
     
    wavy, Nov 29, 2006
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    c-bee1 Guest

    Man, it's great this group is here. I lucked out, everyone, this problem
    was a _tire_. I would have sworn no tire could make a noise like that - and
    particularly, get somewhat worse over a 2 week period. The mechanic
    switched the back and front tires to rule it out before attacking anything
    else, and viola - the front sound is crisp and clean with no caffeine.

    Tiny thumps and wobbles from the back, though. =) Mechanic said that may
    smooth itself out over time, but I might decide to get a new tire if it
    takes a while. All the same, I checked my jack and donut again, just in
    case.

    Thanks again, everyone, for all the help!
     
    c-bee1, Nov 30, 2006
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