Timing belt / chain

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Wurm, Oct 24, 2003.

  1. Wurm

    Wurm Guest

    Hi all,

    Was chatting w/ a friend and they mentioned to me that one should get their
    timing belt changed every 100,000 km. Since I recently crossed this amount,
    I'm curious to know if the 100,000 km mark also holds for Saturns as, to my
    understanding, we have timing chain's as opposed to timing belts (I drive a
    98 SL2).

    So, should I get this changed next time I go to the garage?

    TIA

    Wurm
     
    Wurm, Oct 24, 2003
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  2. Wurm

    Kirk Kohnen Guest

    A 98 SL2 doesn't have a timing belt. It has a timing chain.

    Keep up with the oil and filter changes every 3,000 miles or 3 months, and
    keep the oil level up (the 1.9 liter Saturn engines tend to burn oil) and
    you should be fine.
     
    Kirk Kohnen, Oct 24, 2003
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  3. Wurm

    BANDIT2941 Guest

    Was chatting w/ a friend and they mentioned to me that one should get their
    Leave it alone unless it starts acting up(rattling)......
     
    BANDIT2941, Oct 24, 2003
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  4. Saturns do not have timing belts. A timing chain does not typically have a
    recommended replacement interval, they're generally only replaced when a
    problem is suspected (such as wear causing the chain to have a lot of play
    in it).
     
    Robert Hancock, Oct 25, 2003
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  5. Wurm

    Wurm Guest

    Coolage, thanks to all :)


     
    Wurm, Oct 26, 2003
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  6. Saturn Services (now 6th Planet after Saturn threatened them), a
    well-regarded independent Saturn shop in Florida, suggests
    changing the chain at 70K miles for preventive maintenance:

    "saturn timing chains are failing at an alarming rate, i'm recommending
    to my customers to replace them at 75k as preventive maintenance.
    were now selling apx 4 engines every week now and most are due to
    t-chain failures. the twin cams are failing more than the single cams
    f.y.i."

    A lot of people have been misled on this issue, a timing chain, even though
    it is steel, does NOT last the life of the car. As Tom and Ray state:

    "Timing chains do last longer, but not necessarily the life of the car.
    And when they do break, it's a big job and a lot of money to replace
    them." See http://cartalk.cars.com/Columns/Archive/1999/April/01.html

    So it's up to you. You can probably go another 30K km before you need
    to change it, as long as it's not making any noise. Just ask your mechanic
    if he/she thinks the chain is okay for now. If they are Saturn experts
    they'll
    know what a deteriorating chain sounds like.
     
    Steven M. Scharf, Oct 27, 2003
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  7. Wurm

    Dan Hicks Guest

    In 96, when we bought our 97 SL1 4-cyl, I was told by the salesman
    that it is a non-interference engine. Are you saying it's an
    interference engine?
     
    Dan Hicks, Oct 28, 2003
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  8. Wurm

    BANDIT2941 Guest

    In 96, when we bought our 97 SL1 4-cyl, I was told by the salesman
    Saturn engines are interference engines.
     
    BANDIT2941, Oct 28, 2003
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  9. Wurm

    Napalm Heart Guest

    Sometimes it's nice to have someone run interference for you. ;+)))))

    Ken
     
    Napalm Heart, Oct 28, 2003
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  10. Wurm

    BANDIT2941 Guest

    Sometimes it's nice to have someone run interference for you. ;+)))))
    Yeah........I guess the word interference has its ups and downs....... :)

    Its definitly a down though when pistons hit valves..........

    Jamie
     
    BANDIT2941, Oct 28, 2003
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    satyr Guest

    No, the piston is up when it hits the valves. At this point the
    valves are permanently down.

    Seriously, is the SL1 an interference engine? It's so low
    performance.
     
    satyr, Oct 28, 2003
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  12. Wurm

    BANDIT2941 Guest

    Its definitly a down though when pistons hit valves..........
    True.......but the valves are down :)

    But permanently - they're not as far down since they're bent over :)

    As far as I know, all Saturn engines are interference.
     
    BANDIT2941, Oct 29, 2003
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  13. Yes, it's an interference engine.

    When you asked if it was an interference or a non-interference
    engine did the salesman ask: "which do you want it to be?"
     
    Steven M. Scharf, Oct 29, 2003
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  14. Wurm

    clutch Guest

    I'm thinking of buying a 2000 SL2 tomorrow. How hard is it for an
    amateur mechanic to change the chain? Any estimates on time?

    Thanks,


    WEs
     
    clutch, Oct 30, 2003
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