Sticky Accelerator Pedal on 96 SL2

Discussion in 'Saturn S-series' started by Guest, Aug 17, 2003.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I have a 1996 SL2 that has a sticky gas pedal. It's not a huge problem, but
    it is very annoying since acceleration from a stop or a very low speed
    requires putting additional force on the accelerator pedal until it pops out
    of it's sticking position causing a nice jolt for everyone on board. I
    don't mind so much but passengers sometimes give me the "drive much?" look.

    When the car was under warranty the dealership would fix the problem for
    free fairly quickly. They said they cleaned the EGR valve. Now it will
    cost me $50.00 each time. The problem is re-occuring and has to be done
    every 6-12 months.

    Has anyone had similar problems or know how to resolve it?

     
    Guest, Aug 17, 2003
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    James1549 Guest

    They said they cleaned the EGR valve. Now it will
    Sounds more like the throttle body plate sticking in the housing. Remove the
    air inlet from the throttle body housing, spray some throttle body/carburator
    cleaner in and all around the butterfly plate. My '92 has never had this
    problem, but other cars I have owned would need a cleaning about once a year.

    James
     
    James1549, Aug 17, 2003
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  3. Open the hood, and manually push on the the plastic wheel that
    thethrottle cable goes on, to simulate the cable pulling it open.
    You'll probbably FEEL it being sticky. If so:

    1) Replace the PCV valve (it's easy, and only $3 to get a new one).
    2) Go to a parts store and get a new throttle body to intake manifold
    gasket, and a few cans of throttle body cleaner (2 or 3). Get the
    throttle body stuff, not the cheaper carb stuff - TB cleaner really DOES
    work better.

    I'm going by my '93 SC2, which is a 2 hamster motor, but I think by 96
    the one hamster motor had MFI too, so it's probbably really close.

    3) Remove the air duct, then unplug the two connectors to the throttle
    body, and the gas pedal cable. The last is easier than it looks - hold
    the cable so the gas pedal doesn't flop in when you open the throttle
    totally by hand - then take the cable, pull it so it's aiming down, and
    pull outward toward the cam cover - you'll see what I mean when you look
    at it. Oh yes, disconnect the three air hoses on top by popping off the
    clip and lifting them up - don't lose the clip or rubber block!

    4) There's 2 10 mm bolts holding it on. Take them off - I like to
    clean/lube the bolts and holes while I'm there.

    5) The throttle body will come off, too. Take the old gasket out. If
    you're a cheapskate like me, you can reuse it if you're careful.

    6) Don't start spraying just yet. Instead, take out your Torx drivers
    and remove the IAC and TPS sensors - the screws are different sizes,
    BTW. I forget what size they are, but like T-20 or smaller.

    7) Now, with those sensors out, start spraying away! Get all the
    passeages and crevices and all. You'll find that prior to this, your
    throttle boddy was 'sticky' when you moved things by hand.

    8) Stop cleaning when it looks brand new. It'll look brand new when
    you're done, trust me.

    9) With all the loose liquid blotted away and clean and dry, try working
    it. Not sticking anymore, right?

    10) The manual says not to, but if you take off the IAC O-ring and spray
    carefull around the pintle, you can clean it off.

    11) Re-install the two sensors. They go on more or less the way you
    found them - nothing critical on the alignment.

    12) Look in the intake manifold. Ewww yucky!

    13) Re install the TB, cables, and all, but don't put the duct on just
    yet.

    14) Start the car, let it idle, then follow the can's directions for
    cleaning the TB with the car running - this'll clear out your intake a
    bit.

    15) Put the duct back and all that.

    When you remove the gas pedal cable, you'll note it's amazingly free
    moving. If not, just lube it up - it should move effortlessly and
    smoothly.

    EGR valve? They blame everything on that these days, don't they? :)

    What's happening, as you probbably noticed, is a lot of junk has 'built
    up' and made the throttle body mechanically sticky. Now that it's
    clean, check it every few months and give it just a spraying with the
    engine on, per can instructions, to help it stay clean. But a new PCV
    valve should at least theoretically help keep the junk from blowing like
    crazy (and you probbably needed one anyway).

    And of course, the standard disclaimers about the gas pedal and floor
    mats, etc apply here - check the obvious first.
     
    Philip Nasadowski, Aug 18, 2003
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    Kirk Kohnen Guest

    Good advice.

    Removing the throttle body and giving it a thorough cleaning works wonders.

    A few more thoughts:

    1) Get a replacement throttle body gasket each time you do this.
    2) Use an old tooth brush to help scrub stuff clean.
    3) If you want to minimize the sticking, you can do the following: After
    the throttle body is clean, adjust the "idle speed" screw so that a fully
    closed throttle body rests on the screw and NOT on the closed butterfly
    valve within the throttle body.
     
    Kirk Kohnen, Aug 18, 2003
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