Rough Idle, Easy to Overheat along with different SES codes 97 SC1

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Weezay, Jul 5, 2005.

  1. Weezay

    Weezay Guest

    Please help!

    6/01/05 I had a loud screeching while driving to work, so I pulled into
    the dealer.
    Front pads are worn to sensor and need to be replaced along with the
    rotors.
    They noted rear wheel cylinders were leaking (I made them show me) and
    to replace.
    I also asked them to put a new battery into my key fob in which they
    told me they couldn't and had to replace with a new one ($54).
    I held off on the rotors/calipers.
    6/02/05 - Returned because I was worried and had them replace rotors
    in front and rear calipers - $300 with 'free' rotors since they
    shouldnt be wearing so soon (14K).
    6/07/05 - I notice all of a sudden that the car shakes badly
    especially around 60MPH. They balance and say it is fine.
    It is NOT fine, so I bring back 6/10/05 - they say they are unable to
    duplicate.
    I also told them I had the SES light go on a few months back but it
    went off when I replaced gas cap, but now it is back on and off
    sporadically and that the car has trouble starting every other day or
    so on the first try.
    The car codes found were: P0171, P0300, P0341 and P0656.
    Replaced fuel pump ($460) and cleared codes.
    Told them that car has had rough idle pas few months, so they did a
    tune-up ($160 - I didn't realize I had had one a year before). They
    say codes are cleared.
    6/13/05 - Told them I still have shaking when driving especially
    around 60mph and that it did not happen before the rotors were changed
    on 6/2/05. They told me there were four flat spots and possible right
    front wheel is bent. Free oil change thrown in per my request.
    They also replaced the rotors with another pair when they duplicated
    vibration.
    6/30/05 - SES light on AGAIN!!!!! Some of the same codes as before
    came up - P0300 and P0341 - I'm told I have to replace the
    ignition module per Dave the mechanic and Eddy the Service Assistant
    and that that should take care of the rough idle!!
    $300+ later and it still has a rough idle and I also noticed when
    accelerating, the car is rough as if it were a congested person, jerky
    in a way, lurches.....
    I also told them car goes into overheat range VERY easily and this
    concerns me as it never used to do that before. They checked temp
    sensor and temp gauge and for any leaks - all good. Also told them
    I'm hearing a squeaking and they can't replicate.

    7/02/05 - Oh yes, I went out and got FOUR NEW TIRES due to Saturn
    telling me the shaking is probably caused by the flat spots and after
    being told my Avis guys that they looked bad - another $300+!

    The car still runs rough and when accelerating, still is rough and
    jerky and congested like. I even put premium gas in. I have paid
    roughly $2000 on this car in the last month!!!
     
    Weezay, Jul 5, 2005
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  2. Weezay

    The Real Tom Guest

    No offense, but 97 was a BAD Saturn year(had a 96 Saturn and have a 97
    Saturn, they were night and day with reliablity). They had to extend
    warrenties on compoents of the their cars, since they were flawed. I
    really hate saying this, but next time check ConsumerReports before
    purchasing your next car.

    later,

    tom @ www.CarFleaMarket.com
     
    The Real Tom, Jul 6, 2005
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  3. Weezay

    Weezay Guest

    Believe me, I never wouldve gotten an American Car, but that someone I
    worked with was turning in the lease after 3 years with only 18K and in
    mint condition. My car was about to die, so I jumped at the
    opportunity, but I will research for sure next time I purchase!
     
    Weezay, Jul 8, 2005
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  4. Weezay

    The Real Tom Guest

    Let me comfort you about something, whenever I do work on my car and
    pull a part out, it's stamped "Canada" so I think only final assemly
    of parts was in the US, and the Vin plate was made in the US.
    Everything else seems to be imported. So you don't have an American
    Car. ;)

    Good luck with the problems, I've had an issue that I've been trying
    to chase down for 5 years in my saturn 97sl2. Intermitent rough
    starts, rough idles, and stalls. Especially during very hot, or very
    cold days. Get proficent at doing your own Coolant Temperature
    Changes. Even after doing one, it only reduces the number of
    problems, not the original one.

    To Saturn's defense my 96SL2 Ran great. That car took to 100k miles
    like nothing. Good luck.

    later,

    tom @ www.Mesothelioma-Poll.com
     
    The Real Tom, Jul 12, 2005
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  5. Weezay

    p_vouers Guest

    well my 97 sl2 is fantastic, has over 142K on it and runs great .
    The error codes your getting sound more like bad plug or plug wires..
    probably wires.
    If wires weren't replaced I would start there.
    For $18 I would also definetly replace the coolant temp sensor or you
    can buy the $9 from napa and in any case replace it yourself.
    The codes you are getting are pointing to cyclinder number 4 BTW
     
    p_vouers, Aug 3, 2005
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