Power Windows Misbehaving on '92 Saturn SL1 - Help

Discussion in 'Saturn S-series' started by Tom, Jun 8, 2008.

  1. Tom

    Tom Guest

    Hi, I've got a '92 four door Saturn SL1 w/ power windows. Only the left
    front will go up and down using the power window switch in the console
    between seats. All four windows will go down using the console switches .
    Right now the right front window is hallway down and it will not go up but
    will go down using the window switch in the console. Is there any way I can
    get the right front window closed?

    Thanks,

    Tom
     
    Tom, Jun 8, 2008
    #1
  2. Tom

    navaidstech Guest

    I don't have power windows in my SL1 but looking at the schematic it
    looks like power to the switch, the motor and the two wires going to
    the motor are OK, otherwise you wouldn't see the window go down.
    It would appear that you have a faulty switch, the rocker contacts not
    quite making it to the "UP" position.
    If you have an ohmeter, you could check whether the contacts are
    making it.
    If you have a digital voltmeter, it will allow you to see the voltage
    going to the motor. In one direction it will show you +12 volts
    (approx) and -12 volts in the reverse direction. Be careful if you're
    measuring with an analog meter or you will pin the needle with
    negative voltage, just give the switch a little tap to check for
    movement. Measure accross the TAN and DARK BLUE with WHITE tracer
    wires. (Switch contacts 2E and 2F).
    I'm not sure if those switches can be disassembled, you could try
    taking it apart and cleaning out the connections to get rid of
    oxidation, corrosion, etc. I've been lucky with VW switches in the
    past but can't say whether the Saturn ones case be taken apart.

    Otherwise get a replacement switch. Unfortunately you can't buy them
    separately. :(

    Now... if you have good voltage leaving the switch (ie. +12 and -12)
    then your problem might be the motor itself or there is something
    binding the window and preventing it from coming up.
     
    navaidstech, Jun 8, 2008
    #2
  3. Tom

    Tom Guest

    Thanks for making the effort to figure this out. It maKEes sense it's the
    switch block. the two rear windows will go down using the switches on the
    center console but will not go up using those switches. However, they do go
    up/dpwn using the switches on the rear door panels. I've removed the switch
    block from the console but don't see how I can clean the switches. Do you
    see any online resources that describe the console switch block?

    Tom
     
    Tom, Jun 8, 2008
    #3
  4. Tom

    navaidstech Guest

    HI Tom...

    ok, looking at the schematic again trying to pinpoint exactly what
    might be causing this.
    Let's summarize here: Console switches will bring all windows down but
    only driver's side up. The switches located in rear door panels will
    bring windows up and down, correct?
    Sorry for the questions but I just need to clarify. It would seem that
    you could have multiple problems or just one common problem that is
    causing this issue.

    I don't know of any online resources that will explain the operation
    of this switch. THe switches I worked on usually have these "catches"
    on each side, in order to open it up you would have to gently pry them
    with a flat head screwdriver and slowly open it up....make sure it is
    slow as there are a number of loose rocker contacts and possibly
    springs that might pop out.
    Before you do anything with the switch I would suggest taking a
    digital picture of it so you know what it looks like assembled. I
    would also take a few pics of the "guts" as well.

    But before you do anything, let me know what the switches do for you
    and we'll take it from there.

    ALex
     
    navaidstech, Jun 8, 2008
    #4
  5. Tom

    Tom Guest

    Hi Alex,

    Yes, that's correct.
    I removed the switch box from the console. It appears the individual
    switches
    are held secureluy in place w/ at least four phillips screws.
    Will do.
    Not sure I understand this one.
     
    Tom, Jun 8, 2008
    #5
  6. Tom

    Tom Guest

    The switches lower/raise the power windows. It is ninety-five degrees w/
    high humidity today. Not being able to raise that window w/ the air
    conditioning on is killing me. Last ditch effort I removed the switch mount
    then with a flat blade screwed driver tried to clean the switch contact for
    that window. After twenty minutes of fiddling w/ it jiggiling the switch
    then manually pulling up the window I managed to get it closed. Now I've
    got to block that switch so people don't use it 'til I get it fixed.

    Tom
     
    Tom, Jun 9, 2008
    #6
  7. Tom

    navaidstech Guest

    Good for you.... I sent you an email to your account BTW.

    Alex
     
    navaidstech, Jun 9, 2008
    #7
  8. Tom

    Tom Guest

    ThaNKS Alex, but I don't post my return email address due to spam. I'll
    receive emails if they are sent to soi_01 at yahoo dot com
     
    Tom, Jun 9, 2008
    #8
  9. Tom

    navaidstech Guest

    No problem Tom... I emailed you at your earthlink account
    (<>)....
    I don't even remember what I wrote anymore... :)
     
    navaidstech, Jun 9, 2008
    #9
Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.