Anyone care to add to this confusing debate that I have been having with my co-workers? Some ppl I talk to say that if you know how to drive, these are nice "piece of mind" safety features and not really necessary. Some say that under slippery conditions that ABS will actually increase a car's stopping distance. Saturn's TC works based upon ABS and will cut down on fuel or even shut off fuel if upshifting the engine isn't enough. My SC2 doesn't have ABS/TC, I am old school and know how & when to pump my brakes to slow down. Some say ABS is for panic only situations, and that in the race circuits ABS is against the rules and many actually will disable ABS/TC to enhance thier handling. What do you think?