oil pan gasket on Saturn SL2

Discussion in 'Saturn S-series' started by njot, Mar 18, 2007.

  1. njot

    njot Guest

    Hi-

    I am trying to locate an oil pan gasket for a 93 Saturn SL2, but from
    what I can tell, they don't exist... if you replace the oil pan, you
    just seal it with RTV sealant.

    Is this correct? Can anyone confirm or deny this? I find this very
    strange that it is only RTV sealant that is used, but maybe someone
    can tell me and confirm this.

    Thanks.

    Also, how common is it for an oil pan on a Saturn to rust through and
    become porous? I have never had this happen on a car before, but I
    think that is what happened on my car.
     
    njot, Mar 18, 2007
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  2. njot

    Lane Guest

    Yes, RTV is used. I had to do re-seal my pan at around 120k miles on my '94
    SC2. The job takes a lot of time since you have to pry the old one off and
    clean both the bottom of the block and the pan flange to remove all the old
    silicone. It is also extremely difficult to remove the crank pulley. A
    very good impact wrench or a breaker bar at least 2 feet long will help a
    lot.

    I've seen a number of oil pans with serious rust - it must have to do with
    which part of the country you're in. If it is an area that salts roads in
    the winter months, then I can see how a pan can eventually rust through.
    The metal is not very thick.

    If you need a replacement oil pan, let me know and I can probably dig one up
    and offer it to you for a reasonable cost.

    Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]
     
    Lane, Mar 18, 2007
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  3. njot

    SnoMan Guest


    When I make a gasket using RTV, I coat surfaces, let them skin over
    and them assemble finger tight and let it sit overnight before torque
    them down. I have found that this works well and prevents you from
    squezzing the RTV out of area when it is still "wet". Also I have
    found the black automotive RTV to be best here.
     
    SnoMan, Mar 18, 2007
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  4. njot

    James1549 Guest

    I wonder if Saturn sells a pre-formed oil pan gasket like their valve
    cover gaskets? Anyone know for sure?

    My father-in-law had an alternator on his '94 go bad at 120K, a few
    years ago. When I was under the car changing out the alt, he asked me
    if I could tell what was leaking oil. He had to use a drip pan in the
    garage.

    I tightened up every oil pan bolt I could get to. Many were fairly
    loose. About 2 months later I asked him about his oil leak. He said it
    hasn't dripped a drop since. So maybe give it a try.

    James
     
    James1549, Mar 18, 2007
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  5. njot

    njot Guest

    Thanks everyone for your ideas.
    They all sound good.

    I knew the car had a slight oil leak but it got worse recently.
    1000 miles after an oil change I checked the dipstick and there was
    NOTHING!!
    I added 3 quarts and that filled it! Good thing I checked the oil! I
    don't know how it was running on the one quart or so that was left.

    I knew I had to find the leak but it's obviously much more urgent
    now. I only had to add 1 quart between oil changes before. It
    doesn't seem to leave much oil on the ground when it's parked. Maybe
    a drop or two.

    I have to figure out if it's leaking where the pan meets the block, or
    if the pan (which is rusty from all the road salt) has become porous
    and is actually leaking through the pan.

    I've owned a lot of cars over the years but I've never had this happen
    before (i.e. rust-through of the oil pan, if that's what it is).

    Thanks again.
     
    njot, Mar 18, 2007
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  6. njot

    Lane Guest

    Many of these cars consume oil. Some use a LOT of it. Just because it has
    been down so much, don't assume it is a leak that is the sole cause of it.

    Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]
     
    Lane, Mar 19, 2007
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  7. njot

    Lane Guest

    I wonder if Saturn sells a pre-formed oil pan gasket like their valve cover
    No, they do not.

    I used the gasket RTV that I purchased from the Saturn parts counter, and
    followed the procedure they spcified in the factory service manual. Even
    though I was nervous about how well it would seal, I've never had a problem
    after the job was done.

    Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]
     
    Lane, Mar 19, 2007
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  8. njot

    njot Guest

    OK... update.
    It appears as though the biggest oil leak was actually coming from the
    oil filter itself (Fram), so I replaced it.
    Once I got it off, I couldn't find anything wrong with the old oil
    filter or the gasket.

    I put a new one on (AC Delco, which is typically what I use). It
    appears to still leak, but not nearly as much.

    It is very difficult to see the mating surface on the engine block, so
    I can't tell if it was scored or anything like that.

    Are there any other gasket in this area on the back of the engine that
    I should also check for leaks?

    Thanks.
     
    njot, Mar 24, 2007
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