Off to car heaven

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Canuck57, Feb 20, 2009.

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    Tom W. Butts Guest

    Shee-it. Are there any 10 year old Corrolas left?
     
    Tom W. Butts, Feb 22, 2009
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    Happy Trails Guest

    If they had as much room on the inside as they take up on the outside,
    they'd be more popular!
     
    Happy Trails, Feb 22, 2009
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    Eeyore Guest

    Evidence ?
     
    Eeyore, Feb 22, 2009
    #23
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    Do you know of anybody in the NGs that owns a NEW Corolla?
     
    Mike Hunter, Feb 22, 2009
    #24
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    Obviously you have never been inside of one, if that is what you believe.
    ;)
     
    Mike Hunter, Feb 22, 2009
    #25
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    Hairy Guest

    I don't know where 'ol Ed goes to see/get Hummers, but he claims to know the
    penis size of every Hummer driver out there. I wonder if his wife knows what
    he's up to when she's not around.
     
    Hairy, Feb 22, 2009
    #26
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    johannes Guest

    Ordinary cars now have build in obsolescence. Not necessarily due to engine,
    but the many electronically controlled safety gadgets; airbags, abs, active
    suspension. Any failure lights in those circuits and it's a MOT failure.
    You're supposed to scrap your car after 10 years. A 10 year old car is deemed
    to be excessively polluting. But is this really true?

    My 1993 Saab 9000 LPT does 40 mpg on motorways, much the same as many modern
    cars of the same size. This car was already designed on the back of 1970's
    fuel crises, hence the use of turbo rather than a 6-cyl.

    To be fair, a modern Vauxhall/Opel overlaps considerable with Saab, so there
    is hardly any point of the make. Except the wish to be different...
     
    johannes, Feb 22, 2009
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    DervMan Guest

    You don't appear to understand the American market...
     
    DervMan, Feb 22, 2009
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    Adrian Guest

    Adrian, Feb 22, 2009
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    PeterD Guest


    First it is important to differentiate between the H1 (the original
    Hummer) and GM's abortions that came after (H2 and H3). Many (not all,
    but most) H1 owners go off-road. I do, and many of my friends with
    them do as well.

    H2 and H3 owners pride themselves in their parking lot and soccer
    field parking lot adventures!

    As for 'ugly', I can assure you that many girls (attractive ones, at
    that) seem to not notice when they ask for a ride. Try that in your
    Pontiac!

    GM totally fucked up the Hummer name, never ever understood what
    Hummer was, and only thought to market to the masses. In short it was
    doomed to failure, because Hummer owners, to that point, were very
    unique people, buying a very unique vehicle. Only about 10,000 H1s
    were ever produced (world-wide sales) of which most (sadly not all)
    are still running around.

    They (the H1, the ONLY real Hummer) are tough, incredible trail and
    off-road vehicles right off the dealer's floor.

    GM has consistantly missed the boat, so to speak, with other brands.
    THey never understood owners (Saab, and Hummer come to mind), just as
    Ford didn't understand Jaguar and Rover owners. The end result was
    pre-ordained.

    Yes, I really do have a Hummer H1. Actually I have two, I like them so
    much. And no, I rarely get the finger.
     
    PeterD, Feb 22, 2009
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    PeterD Guest

    They are not intended to all maximum load or passengers. They are
    intended for a very different purpose. Get a van if that (more room)
    is your objective. Your comment points out how misunderstood the H1 is
    by some people, and typifies how GM misread the brand and market.
     
    PeterD, Feb 22, 2009
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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Exactly. Too many think the GM Hummer is the real deal, thus the "Sissy
    Hummer" name I give it. The H-1 is a great off road machine. The H-2 and
    H-3 are for people with a lot of money and want to buy macho.
     
    Ed Pawlowski, Feb 22, 2009
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    Meh... do a lot of H1 owners really go off road? But I do agree with
    your point.

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, Feb 22, 2009
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  14. When was that? 1943? GM is an impending disaster.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Feb 22, 2009
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    Charles C Guest

    Has VW really been taken over by Porsche? Was that Jan 2009?

    Charles
     
    Charles C, Feb 22, 2009
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    That was supposed to be the deal, although I haven't 100% heard that
    it's gone through.

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, Feb 22, 2009
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    Adrian Guest

    Porsche have long held a significant stake in VW - and upped it last
    autumn to 40+% with a stack of options - which caused significant
    amusement at the expense of the hedge funds...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7697082.stm
     
    Adrian, Feb 22, 2009
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    HLS Guest

    He made the initiating comment, all right. I mostly see soccer moms driving
    them. I think
    it gives them a sense of safety.
     
    HLS, Feb 22, 2009
    #38
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    PeterD Guest

    Many (sure, not all) do go off road. Some very agressively, too. I am
    moderate, doing things one would not be able to do in any other stock
    vehicle, but not really insane things. I've watched friends climb
    almost verticle 6' rock formations successfully.

    If you were to want to go off-road in a Hummer H1, let me know (on
    this group, no email...) and we'll set something up. We go out several
    times a year at least.
     
    PeterD, Feb 22, 2009
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    me Guest


    It's not American's, per se. It's GM. Most Americans have a clue about
    cars, after many years of ignorance for most of them. Slowly they got
    a clue. That's why the "big three" are now going down the tubes.
     
    me, Feb 23, 2009
    #40
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