No start issues, 1998 sl1

Discussion in 'Saturn S-series' started by angelsaysno, May 4, 2006.

  1. angelsaysno

    angelsaysno Guest

    hello! I have a 1998 sl1, and for three weeks now I have a no-start
    problem. Won't start late at night or early in the morning, I assume
    cold weather. Just started on easter. Three mechanics including the
    saturn dealer can't figure it out. I've had new spark plugs & wires,
    all codes checked and fixed, and a new fuel pump/filter. Total cost so
    far $1000.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks!
    Gina Marie
     
    angelsaysno, May 4, 2006
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  2. angelsaysno

    Lane Guest

    You paid a professional (or professionals) a thousand bucks and they can't
    figure it out? Holy crap. Normally a mechanic does a diagnostic to
    determine the problem BEFORE throwing parts at it and charging you for them.
    You may want to shop around to find a competent shop that operates in this
    manner.

    Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]
     
    Lane, May 5, 2006
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  3. angelsaysno

    angelsaysno Guest

    Lane,

    Sorry, I wasn't clear, the diagnosatic checks at three places aren't
    showing what's wrong with it. I'm not stupid. Any codes that come up
    are being fixed. Low fuel pressure, we fix it. Broken spark plug, we
    fix it. Codes, we fix them.

    It still won't start at night/early AM.

    As far as competent shop. How about one that an entire family uses, and
    most people in town, for many years with out issues?

    I was hoping someone who had the same problems in the past could help.
    I really don't need advice on how to get a car fixed, i need advice
    abour THE CAR.

    Thanks,
    Gina Marie
     
    angelsaysno, May 5, 2006
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  4. angelsaysno

    BläBlä Guest

    Discribe "wont start". Wont "turn over", turns over but does not start
    or other things that you dont give much thought to. Coolant sensor is
    the only thing I have to go on at the moment and that is just a thought,
    not a diagnosis.
     
    BläBlä, May 5, 2006
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  5. angelsaysno

    Lane Guest

    Understood.

    Have you considered leaving it with the shop, and letting them
    monitor/troubleshoot it when the problem is occurring? Plugging into the
    computer and looking at all the sensors and other various readings when the
    problem is happening could be beneficial, if it hasn't been done already...

    Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]
     
    Lane, May 5, 2006
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  6. angelsaysno

    angelsaysno Guest

    Thanks. yeah, each place has had it, to tinker with. Done the computer
    diagnostics on it a bunch of times. They keep it for a week at a time.
    Sometimes it starts every day for a few days, so they can;t diagnose
    the problem when it;s starting. They needed to wait for it to not
    start. SO frustrating. I've been wiht out the car for three weeks now.

    Saturn keeps telling me it's a loose connections, and they fixed it,
    then in the AM< it won't start. Even they are stuck.

    Thanks.
     
    angelsaysno, May 5, 2006
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  7. angelsaysno

    angelsaysno Guest

    it won't turn over. I turn the key, everything clicks, lights work,
    radio, dashboard.. just won't turn.

    I'l tell them to check the coolant sensor. thanks, that helps.
     
    angelsaysno, May 5, 2006
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  8. angelsaysno

    BläBlä Guest

    Ohhh that gives us something more to go on. The coolant sensor has
    nothing to do with case so forget that. If you get this again try moving
    the shifter and starting in neutral or park. You may be having a problem
    with your "Neutral Position Switch".
     
    BläBlä, May 5, 2006
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  9. I had problems with my 97SL2 with stalling, zero starts, etc. After
    all the work, I found most of the time was the Coolant Temperature
    Sensor.

    I've had that replaced each time, since it was too cheap to test. That
    fixed most major problems for me.

    imho,

    tom @ www.consolidated-loans.info
     
    Tom The Great, May 5, 2006
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  10. angelsaysno

    Bob Shuman Guest

    Neutral position sensor is a good thought. You can diagnose by moving the
    shifter into neutral and park to see if it starts.

    I am assuming you have some power and battery is good (headlights light,
    etc.)

    Other possibilities are a bad/dirty battery cable or connection, a bad
    starter solenoid, a bad starter relay, bad starter, or defective
    ignition/key switch.

    At that age, I'd suspect the solenoid. Any competent mechanic should be
    able to trace this circuit and find the problem WHEN IT IS FAILING. I
    understand that if it is not failing and intermittent that it is impossible
    to diagnose.

    Good luck

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, May 6, 2006
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