Have you guys seen the new Saturn line up and concept(s) at www.saturnfans.com ? What do you think? I love the SKY, Aura and PreVUE. We'll all miss polymer panels, but the new designs are sure exciting!
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Have you guys seen the new Saturn line up and concept(s) at www.saturnfans.com ? What do you think? I love the SKY, Aura and PreVUE. We'll all miss polymer panels, but the new designs are sure exciting!
Sky - Good car but not very practical, good that GM is smart enough to limit production. Does outclass all other 4cyl 2 seaters in more ways than one. One would be silly to buy any other car in that class...except a Solstice of course.
Aura - No idea, kinda stepping out of Saturns domain but gives saturn loyalist something to move upto.
PreVUE - Ohhh gesh.. They rendered the Vue very impractical... It will have a very very small market if it doesnt get 40+mpg or better.
<The specs on the Sky seem to closely parallel the Miata, which is less expensive>
not sure what specs you read, but beyond the bilstien shocks which are available only on the M5 MazdaSpeed package which starts at a price above the SKY, there are little similarities. Yep, they are both great sport convertables.
The SKY is wider and a few inches longer, has a hydroformed frame (which is similar to a miniature version of the 'vette), has a tighter suspension than the Solstice, hyfroformed (not stamped) body panels, encased drive shaft, and much more.
Not to say that the M5 isnt a nice car, is it, but it is no SKY, nor is the SKY an M5, Crossfire or Z4. It's Saturn's best to date IMHO.
marx404
not sure what specs you read, but beyond the bilstien shocks which are available only on the M5 MazdaSpeed package which starts at a price above the SKY, there are little similarities. Yep, they are both great sport convertables.
The SKY is wider and a few inches longer, has a hydroformed frame (which is similar to a miniature version of the 'vette), has a tighter suspension than the Solstice, hyfroformed (not stamped) body panels, encased drive shaft, and much more.
Not to say that the M5 isnt a nice car, is it, but it is no SKY, nor is the SKY an M5, Crossfire or Z4. It's Saturn's best to date IMHO.
marx404
<The specs on the Sky seem to closely parallel the Miata, which is less expensive>
not sure what specs you read, but beyond the bilstien shocks which are available only on the M5 MazdaSpeed package which starts at a price above the SKY, there are little similarities. Yep, they are both great sport convertables.
The SKY is wider and a few inches longer, has a hydroformed frame (which is similar to a miniature version of the 'vette), has a tighter suspension than the Solstice, hyfroformed (not stamped) body panels, encased drive shaft, and much more.
Not to say that the M5 isnt a nice car, is it, but it is no SKY, nor is the SKY an M5, Crossfire or Z4. It's Saturn's best to date IMHO.
marx404
Heres the jist of it.
MX-5, Timing Belt + X in its name for "experimental".
Sky, Timing Chain + more torque + a Ecotec.
Nuf said.
<<not sure what specs you read>>
Only in an overall sense - similar layout and dimensions, same power rating on the engine. I would expect the overall performance to be similar. The hyfroformed body panels and encased drive shaft probably won't make it go faster...
John Cowart
Only in an overall sense - similar layout and dimensions, same power rating on the engine. I would expect the overall performance to be similar. The hyfroformed body panels and encased drive shaft probably won't make it go faster...
John Cowart
<<not sure what specs you read>>
Only in an overall sense - similar layout and dimensions, same power rating on the engine. I would expect the overall performance to be similar. The hyfroformed body panels and encased drive shaft probably won't make it go faster...
John Cowart
He was reading the specs that matter:
Torque @ RPM 140@5000
vs
Torque @ RPM 162@4800
Most of us actually drive with torque, not HP, so no not the same specs. Also if you worked on either first hand I doubt you would ever touch a Mazda willingly and would never call them similar ever again. The Kappa cars are a very thoughtfully layed out. Mazda IMHO doesn't build cars for easy servicing. (They only have to last 3 years service free in Japan before most people can't afford to re-license them anymore.) Also Mazda's in the past have been very squirely with their handling.
<<He was reading the specs that matter:>>
<<Torque @ RPM 140@5000>>
<<vs>>
<<Torque @ RPM 162@4800>>
Until you look at the weights - the Sky is 2,860 lbs while the Miata is only 2,473 lbs
Miata 2,473 / 140 = 17.66
Sky 2,860 / 162 = 17.65
Since the torque available to move each pound of each car is about the same, acceleration should be the same. Since the Miata has the same power with less weight, it's top end speed should be higher.
John Cowart
<<Torque @ RPM 140@5000>>
<<vs>>
<<Torque @ RPM 162@4800>>
Until you look at the weights - the Sky is 2,860 lbs while the Miata is only 2,473 lbs
Miata 2,473 / 140 = 17.66
Sky 2,860 / 162 = 17.65
Since the torque available to move each pound of each car is about the same, acceleration should be the same. Since the Miata has the same power with less weight, it's top end speed should be higher.
John Cowart
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