New Saturns

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by marx404, Apr 20, 2006.

  1. marx404

    marx404 Guest

    Have you guys seen the new Saturn line up and concept(s) at ?
    What do you think? I love the SKY, Aura and PreVUE. We'll all miss polymer
    panels, but the new designs are sure exciting!
    marx404, Apr 20, 2006
  2. marx404

    bo peep Guest

    <<What do you think?>>

    I saw a SKY in person the other day. Very nice looking, but I'm not
    sure it is worth the extra $ over the coupe or sedan.

    John Cowart
    bo peep, Apr 20, 2006
  3. marx404

    blah blah Guest

    Sky - Good car but not very practical, good that GM is smart enough to
    limit production. Does outclass all other 4cyl 2 seaters in more ways
    than one. One would be silly to buy any other car in that class...except
    a Solstice of course.

    Aura - No idea, kinda stepping out of Saturns domain but gives saturn
    loyalist something to move upto.

    PreVUE - Ohhh gesh.. They rendered the Vue very impractical... It will
    have a very very small market if it doesnt get 40+mpg or better.
    blah blah, Apr 20, 2006
  4. marx404

    bo peep Guest

    <<Does outclass all other 4cyl 2 seaters>>

    The specs on the Sky seem to closely parallel the Miata, which is less

    John Cowart
    bo peep, Apr 20, 2006
  5. marx404

    marx404 Guest

    <The specs on the Sky seem to closely parallel the Miata, which is less

    not sure what specs you read, but beyond the bilstien shocks which are
    available only on the M5 MazdaSpeed package which starts at a price above
    the SKY, there are little similarities. Yep, they are both great sport

    The SKY is wider and a few inches longer, has a hydroformed frame (which is
    similar to a miniature version of the 'vette), has a tighter suspension than
    the Solstice, hyfroformed (not stamped) body panels, encased drive shaft,
    and much more.

    Not to say that the M5 isnt a nice car, is it, but it is no SKY, nor is the
    SKY an M5, Crossfire or Z4. It's Saturn's best to date IMHO.
    marx404, Apr 22, 2006
  6. marx404

    blah blah Guest

    Heres the jist of it.

    MX-5, Timing Belt + X in its name for "experimental".

    Sky, Timing Chain + more torque + a Ecotec.

    Nuf said.
    blah blah, Apr 22, 2006
  7. marx404

    bo peep Guest

    <<not sure what specs you read>>

    Only in an overall sense - similar layout and dimensions, same power
    rating on the engine. I would expect the overall performance to be
    similar. The hyfroformed body panels and encased drive shaft probably
    won't make it go faster...

    John Cowart
    bo peep, Apr 22, 2006
  8. marx404

    blah blah Guest

    He was reading the specs that matter:
    Torque @ RPM 140@5000
    Torque @ RPM 162@4800

    Most of us actually drive with torque, not HP, so no not the same specs.
    Also if you worked on either first hand I doubt you would ever touch a
    Mazda willingly and would never call them similar ever again. The Kappa
    cars are a very thoughtfully layed out. Mazda IMHO doesn't build cars
    for easy servicing. (They only have to last 3 years service free in
    Japan before most people can't afford to re-license them anymore.) Also
    Mazda's in the past have been very squirely with their handling.
    blah blah, Apr 22, 2006
  9. marx404

    bo peep Guest

    <<He was reading the specs that matter:>>
    <<Torque @ RPM 140@5000>>
    <<Torque @ RPM 162@4800>>

    Until you look at the weights - the Sky is 2,860 lbs while the Miata is
    only 2,473 lbs

    Miata 2,473 / 140 = 17.66
    Sky 2,860 / 162 = 17.65

    Since the torque available to move each pound of each car is about the
    same, acceleration should be the same. Since the Miata has the same
    power with less weight, it's top end speed should be higher.

    John Cowart
    bo peep, Apr 23, 2006
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