LS200 Windshield Wiper Problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by GRISWOLD3, May 19, 2009.

  1. GRISWOLD3

    GRISWOLD3 Guest

    Hi all - The Wipers on my 2001 LS200 will not return to the home
    position when turned off. Instead they stop about half way across the
    windshield. They work fine when running & do make a complete cycle.
    This is pretty annoying. Any ideas?
    Thanks,
    Griswold
     
    GRISWOLD3, May 19, 2009
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  2. GRISWOLD3

    Oppie Guest

    Sounds like the cam that drives the shut-off switch slipped position. Not
    sure if this is a brute force switch that shuts off the wipers in the 'home'
    position or a low power switch that signals the BCM (body control module)
    when to cut the motor power. If I get a chance tonight I'll check my '01 L
    series service manual. I have the lw300.
    Oppie
     
    Oppie, May 19, 2009
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  3. GRISWOLD3

    GRISWOLD3 Guest

    Thanks so much for investigating this. I tried pushing the wipers with
    the motor on to try & re-position them. This did change the exact spot
    they parked in slightly but now they're more on the top of the
    windshield. Anyway maybe this bit of info is of use to you.
    Thanks again & I look forward to your help!
    Griswold
     
    GRISWOLD3, May 20, 2009
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  4. GRISWOLD3

    oppie Guest

    Thanks so much for investigating this. I tried pushing the wipers with
    the motor on to try & re-position them. This did change the exact spot
    they parked in slightly but now they're more on the top of the
    windshield. Anyway maybe this bit of info is of use to you.
    Thanks again & I look forward to your help!
    Griswold

    ======================

    My post with attachment seems to have been lost.
    Scan of the manual is on Wiring diagram from the L series 2001 service manual
    (body/electical volume II). (If the scan gets lost, I can re-post to a
    binaries group)

    I concentrated on the electrical (since I'm an electrical engineer) but your
    problem may actually be a mechanical one.
    The motor connector is a black 5 cavity connector with:
    pin 1= low speed power through wiper relay and wiper switch.
    pin 5= high speed power (ditto)
    pin 2= chassis ground
    pin3= park brake
    pin 4= 12V

    The Wiper relay for our purposes, will be de-energized. It is only used for
    intermittent wiper (mist) operation.
    Wiper power comes from wiper switch terminal F through to wiper motor pins 1
    (low speed) or 5 (high speed).
    The Wiper relay is shown in the de-energized position.
    The wiper motor park switch is shown int eh park position ( my notation on
    the scan is backwards).
    Assumming the wiper is running and is switched to the off position, 12V fed
    to the wiper motor (connector pin 4) flows through the run/park switch and
    to the wiper relay (circuit 196) where it continues to power the motor
    through the low speed (pin 1) terminal until the motor comes to the park
    position and the run/park switch pulls the motor to ground. This
    essentially short-circuits the motor and causes it to abruptly stop.

    The fact that your wipers stop mid-way and consistently, I would rather
    think that a mechanical linkage has broken.
    I will have to look elsewhere in the manual to find the mechanical R&R for
    the wipers. My guess is that has shifted in the motor affecting relation
    between output crank and the run/park cam. Possibly the output crank has a
    shear pin that protects the motor from burn-out if the wipers are locked in
    place (as with ice). You will most likely have to remove the motor and check
    the linkages and inspect for a bad shear pin. Let me know how you make out.

    Oppie

    ===========
    I had a chance to look at the mechanical portion of the wipers. Looks like
    the caps over the end of the wipers flip up and there is simply a
    compression nut to tighten the arms against the tapered drive spindle. From
    what the manual said, there is no shear pin that is customary on most cars.
    Manual recommends using new nuts as "the old ones may not have enough
    torque". Information was a bit sketchy but I would remove both arms and
    clean both mating surfaces. Inspect for galling or grooves which would
    indicate slippage. If the surfaces are not smooth enough to properly grab
    against one another, you may have to use some rubbing compound to lap them.
    If you have to do this, apply some to the surfaces, press the parts together
    and rotate them against each other for a few passes. Clean, inspect and
    re-assemble. You may have to use a shim washer between the nut and arm to
    get correct tension.

    Hope this was useful.
     
    oppie, May 26, 2009
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