latest Saturn Horror Story

Re: Saturn of Grand Rapids.

After taking my 2004 L300 Saturn into Saturn of GR for an oil change
and tire rotation, I was told that my front craddle bushings were
separating and had to be replaced

(after only 37,400 miles). I was told by the Service Advisor that this
was a common occurrence, due to driving over bad roads. I have owned 3
other Saturns prior to this one and have never had to replace
suspension bushings on any of them (over 100K miles on each car). The
driving I do is 90% freeway/interstate; I don't drive over back
country, washboard roads. The regular 36,000 mile Saturn warranty had
just expired but the problem had to have started long before this and
should have been fully covered under the 36K warranty. I was told I
would have to pay the $100 deductible under my extended warranty, for
which I paid about $1,500 to cover 100K miles. These people wouldn't
consider absorbing the deductible themselves and I told them that this
doesn't speak well for Saturn reliabilty and if a car starts falling
apart after only 37K miles, I don't think I will buy another Saturn.
My first 3 were pretty good cars but the later models are just plain
junk, in my opinion and Saturn of GR isn't any better than most other
U.S. car dealerships (liars and crooks). "Saturn...a different kind of
car company." Yeah...right!

STEVE ALLEN





Don't expect to receive any necessary information about your car from
Saturn of Grand Rapids. The only thing I ever received from them were
so-called "Great Offers" to buy another lemon from them!

 

Boy, sucks to be you, Stevie!

 

I biught an SL in 1996. I chose the American make over a Honda or
Toyota because Consumer Reports rated the Saturn's reliabilty on par
with the best of Japan. CR gave it poor marks for engine noise and
too large turning circle, but I chose it anyways to support an
American company and US workers.

The car was and is still good. Why Saturn couldn't keep it up and
compete with the Japanese I don't know, but I would never buy one of
the new models.
Why? When you can go buy a Japanese car that will give you far better
reliability and cost less to operate in the long run.

When I pull into the Saturn dealer for parts in my trusty old SL,
the salesmen pounce on me to see if I want to but a new one, and I
always tell them "You guys don't make a good car anymore, so I'll have
to keep driving this one"

My wife has owned two Dodge minivans in the last decade and both
fell apart at the 80-100K mile mark. A/C leaks, oil leaks, tranny
leaks, electrical problems, power windows falling out, etc.

The Grand Caravan she just got rid of had so much crap wrong with it
that I refused to fix it, and we traded it in on a Toyota Sienna van.

I will never, ever again buy a car that is not as reliable at a
Japanese car.


It looked like Saturn was going to do it, but they f**k'd it up.

Larry

 

Sigh... Here we go again with more aimless rants that never solve a
thing...

Opinions dont equal facts despite what some may use as their handle. My
"american made" cars "issues" have cost me far less than just one
"timing belt" serviced on a Japanese make with lesser miles.

WOW a dealer trying to sell a car (OMG this is news to me) only to be
countered with an opinion... Some other peoples opinions on SL's is that
they're sh**. Do you take their word for it?

I've seen imports with far worse, your point is?

e.g. Most Honda's I have worked on have more oil coating the undersides
than they have lubricating the engines. I guess no one should buy Honda
anymore based on that.

This thread was started by the worlds biggest and most disturbed troll.
I hope you enjoyed playing into his delusions.

 

I do not care what you do on the side, I have nearly a 30 year
background in electrical and mechnical engineering and I know various
materials well and there limitations from a design point of veiw.
Anyone that suggests that they use stop leak in new engines is really
kinda clueless on this matter and should seek another less challanging
field. While it is true that some surface can be tuff to seal they
call all be overcome with the use proper materails, sealent and
assembly procedures.

 

Obviously no automotive background or training in the past 15 years...

LOL They have been using stop leaks in engines for years! In fact Saturn
had been using ginger root since they started! More and more
manufacturers have been looking for ways to prolong inevitable leaks.
You seem to think no engine ever leaks if its "designed correctly"...
lol. Get yourself a few friends that are ASE techs. You might be able to
keep up on current automotive technology... lol clueless.

 

Not one car ships with it and while some shady dealer may use it it is
not a cure and it reduces oil lubrication properties too so it is
silly to use. Your handle "blah blah" says it all about some of your
words of wisedom.