key in ignition.....won`t turn.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Mason121, Aug 27, 2004.

  1. Mason121

    Mason121 Guest

    Hello, Sometimes when I put the key in the ignition it just won`t turn. Two
    weeks might go by with no problems and then it happens. I rotate the steering
    wheel to
    relieve the locking mechanism pressure but still nada. I can put the key in
    and out like 50 times and it won`t turn and then on the 51st try it turns. I
    have seveal keys to the ignition and when this problem happens it doesn`t
    matter which key I try the results are the same. On a different note: I don`t
    know if this makes any difference but when ever I turn the car off and leave
    the key in the igniton I have to take the key out and put it back in for it to
    turn.
    Car is a `97 SC2/w 48k miles.
    Thanks........Dan.
     
    Mason121, Aug 27, 2004
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  2. Sounds like you need a new lock. I assume the keys open the doors reliably?
    You might try a little WD40 on the key (NOT into the lock) to see if that
    helps, but I doubt it will. You could also try some dry spray lubricant on
    the lock itself, but I would be aftraid that it might actually make things
    worse.
    --
    Dana C. Rohleder
    Port Kent, NY

    "Look, if somebody has done some wrong in our military, we'll take care of
    it. We got plenty of capability of dealing with justice."
    G.W. Bush - Niceville, Fla., Aug. 10, 2004
     
    Dana Rohleder, Aug 27, 2004
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  3. I had that same problem with my 2000 SL2.

    Actually had the dealer replace it once, then it started happening again. So
    this time instead of taking in to the dealer to get my $$$ stolen, I turned
    the key - but with pliers! I figured if it was busted I wasn't going to do
    anymore damage.

    Well, it fixed the problem. I didn't appear to have broken anything and I
    haven't had the problem come back. You might want to give this a try, but at
    your own risk!

    G/L!
     
    David Rancour, Aug 27, 2004
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  4. Mason121

    Jeremiah Guest

    Yep, sounds like the lock cylinder. Trust me on this one, get it replaced,
    now, don't wait, if it is the lock cylinder, and it does lock up, you (or
    the tech) will spend more time then is needed replacing the cylinder I
    wouldn't do what David sais, turning the key with a pair of pliers, some
    keys tend to break then your in alot of trouble.
    i say this becuase you need to have the cylinder turned to the ACC posistion
    to remove it. If the cylinder is locked up, you hvae two options, 1 beat it
    out, 2 beat it out and replace the housing along with the cylinder.
    If your not comfertable doing this, have the dealer do it, but it's not that
    difficult of a job to do, if the cylinder turns when you need it to.
    Good Luck

    Jeremiah
     
    Jeremiah, Aug 29, 2004
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  5. Mason121

    MSEagan Guest

    I had this problem with my '02 SL and it is still under warrenty. The
    problem kept getting worse, so I finally took it in and they replaced the
    lock cylinder and gave me new keys.
     
    MSEagan, Aug 30, 2004
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  6. Mason121

    Mason121 Guest

    Jeremiah"
    Wrote:
    I wouldn`t do what David said. Have had too many other cars where the key
    breaks off in the ignition just by turning the key by hand. Guess I`m just
    unlucky with car keys. I did have a car once that had the key broken off in
    the ignition......I put a screw driver with a squared shaft on it in the key
    slot and used an adjustable wrench on the square shaft an just forced the
    ignition to turn. Didn`t even need a key after that. Could just turn it by
    hand.
    I wouldn`t recomend this method to anyone though.
    I`ll be taking the car to the dealer for a new locking cylinder asap. Of
    course they will try to sell me alot of other usless stuff. They: "Oh your
    breaks are worn out....air filter is dirty and needs
    replacement....etc....etc....
    Dan.
     
    Mason121, Aug 30, 2004
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  7. Mason121

    micven55 Guest

    Get new keys made at the dealer first before replacing the lock cylinder.
    Typically keys are made from a softer metal than the hardend steel in the
    lock cylinder and will wear first. You need to go to the dealer so the
    keys can be made from the key code, otherwise you'd just be making a copy
    of a worn key. This happened to both 2001 SL1's I have and took care of
    the problem.
     
    micven55, Aug 31, 2004
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  8. Mason121

    Mason121 Guest

    "micven55"
    I did what you advised. Didn`t have to go to the dealer though. I had a key
    that was never used......Saturn gave it to me when I bought the car a wallet
    key. Had a new key made from it and the ignition is working ok now. Now I think
    I know the root problem of the key problem. When I insert the key into the
    ignition there is a very rough noise and feeling......like the inerds of the
    ignition are cutting the metal off of the key. I did put some lubricant in the
    ignition and now the key comes out with a black sludge type material on it.
     
    Mason121, Sep 13, 2004
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  9. Mason121

    traveltom46 Guest

    Your troubleshooting comments regarding the use of the "wallet key"
    certainly helped solve my ignition key problem. I tried the wallet key
    three times and each time the key immediately turned and the engine fired
    up. Thanks for the hints. I'm sure you have probably saved me several
    hundred dollars now that I do not have to replace the locking meachnism.
    traveltom46
     
    traveltom46, Mar 31, 2007
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