Issue shifting from 1st --> 2nd when cold.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Matt, Feb 2, 2005.

  1. Matt

    Matt Guest

    Is this something I should be concerned about, and does anyone know what
    it might be?

    I have a 2000 SL1 with 30,000 miles on it.

    In cold weather when I go to shift from 1st to 2nd gear I feel as though
    I have to exert more pressure then normal to get it to go into gear...
    further there is a "catching" feeling as though something is getting
    caught, then uncaught, and then moving finally into second.

    If I shift from 1st to 3rd, then into 2nd (not leaving the clutch out
    between the whole deal).. it goes into 2nd just fine... Any ideas?
    Matt, Feb 2, 2005
  2. Matt

    Napalm Heart Guest

    Have you checked the transmission fluid?
    Napalm Heart, Feb 2, 2005
  3. Matt

    Matt Guest

    On a stick shift???
    Matt, Feb 2, 2005
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    Dan Duncan Guest

    The manual transmissions in S-series Saturns are filled with
    automatic transmission fluid (ATF) instead of gear oil. (I'm not
    actually sure why, but clearly it works fine.) That reminds me that I'm
    overdue for my 100k mile ATF change in my 1998 SW2 (also a stick shift).
    The Saturn manuals seem to be very solid, but Saturn clearly doesn't want
    to sell them much any more. When I needed a new AWD or 4WD vehicle, I
    gave Saturn's Vue first shot but they wouldn't sell me one with a manual
    transmission so I paid more to buy a vehicle from another manufacturer.

    Dan Duncan, Feb 2, 2005
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    150hpSL1992 Guest

    hey matt, ive been playing around with my SL's taransmission / linkage /
    anything to do with the cursed thing, but anyway i think i have your
    answer. all the other answers you got about the trany fluid is not wrong,
    that should be the first thing you check, but heres a little more info on
    the car itself. to begin with, not to discourrage you, but the shifting
    mechanism for saturn is... well to put it short, not the best. your
    problem may have something to do with the gear lockout, it is something
    that alot of cars have to keep you from shifting back into first gear when
    you are attempting to shift from 2nd to 3rd, which would explain how you
    were saying how it workis fine if you put it in 3rd then 2nd. for the
    most part i will tell you that it is nothing to really worry about, its
    just annoying, and it usually only happens in cold weather, as it does to
    my car. the best advice i can give you is to let the car COMPLETELY warm
    up the next time you are going out to your car after its been sitting for
    a long time. if this doesnt work, try reposting, i could fill up this
    entire site with the things ive had to deal with concerning the
    transmission in my saturn.

    keep it real.
    150hpSL1992, Feb 3, 2005
  6. The clutches sure are. At 238,000+ miles, I actually blew up the tranny
    in mine though. When it comes out later this week, I'll know why, but
    I'm _not_ happy that it blew up. And it went bad - fluid everywhere and
    a good amount of crunch/lockup. Popular theory is the diff blew up.

    $350 for a used one at the junker yard. Oh well, at least I can pull
    the old one and do a post mortem.

    I hope it didn't blow the clutch up, though I probbably should replace
    that, too (yeah - origional)

    I'm not sure what the failure sequence was. At first, we thought the
    case cracked/shattered, but we've not gotten the thing out yet.

    It's a '93 and I really don't want to replace the tranny in it, but I
    don't have the time/money to get another car, so I've got no choice :(
    Philip Nasadowski, Feb 3, 2005
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    Nick Hull Guest

    Have you checked the clutch fluid? If the clutch is low on brake fluid
    you will get similiar symptoms. The reservoir is buried deep against
    the firewall but you can find it if you look.
    Nick Hull, Feb 3, 2005
  8. Matt

    Matt Guest

    Thanks for the insight.... how exactly does one check the fluid in a
    manual transmission?
    Matt, Feb 3, 2005
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    Napalm Heart Guest

    Look on the top of the transmission. There is a dipstick that has a
    handle that folds over. If you look down between the battery and the
    brake master cylinder you should see it.

    Napalm Heart, Feb 4, 2005
  10. Matt

    Matt Guest

    And that takes brake fluid.... correct? But the fluid for the tranny
    does not interconnect with the brake fluid.. is that correct also?
    Matt, Feb 4, 2005
  11. Matt

    Napalm Heart Guest

    It uses automatic transmission fluid. Dexron.
    Napalm Heart, Feb 5, 2005
  12. Matt

    Matt Guest

    Well at any rate.. the clutch fluid is full to where it says to have it
    Matt, Feb 7, 2005
  13. Matt

    Napalm Heart Guest

    That's good. Now what is the level of the fluid in the transmission?
    Napalm Heart, Feb 7, 2005
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