ION Oil Changes

Discussion in 'Saturn ION' started by bo peep, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. bo peep

    bo peep Guest

    The ION has a feature where the computer monitors the vehicle's
    driving conditions and determines when it is time for an oil change.
    The factory states that oil changes are not needed before that time.
    Our local Saturn dealers say that this is all wrong, and that the oil
    should be changed every 3k miles, regardless of driving conditions.
    Which entity's opinion is correct? Why is the other one lying?
    bo peep, Aug 22, 2007
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    Steve Guest

    Not to accuse your dealer of lying but consider that (s)he makes more money the more frequently her/his customers
    have their oil changed.
    Steve, Aug 22, 2007
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    teem Guest

    When i reset the trip after a fill up that damn thing shows up!,If
    Saturn told me about when i boughtit,I forgot.Besides.I get a letter
    in the MAIL to set up an appointment.Is the OIL LIFE supposed to go
    off automatically?.
    teem, Aug 23, 2007
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    marx404 Guest

    The oil life monitor uses a variable of monitoring cold starts, viscosity
    and other things. That is a golden question, but the answer is quite simple,
    and actually you can hold the owners manual accountable and correct. Older
    cars needed to have oil changes every 3K miles, the ecotec allows you to get
    the full life of your oil by monitoring it and alerts you to tell you when
    it determines the oil usefulness is gone. However, there are many factors
    involved such as driving and environmental conditions which may call for you
    to keep the 3K regimen, such as driving in extreme heat, heavy traffic or
    dirt roads.

    When you press the toggle button on the DIC console to reset the trip
    computer, it will toggle between "OIL LIFE" and the trip mileage. Depending
    on how many times you pressed the button it may stay on "OIL LIFE", just
    press the button again to show your mileage. What the usefulness of this
    feature is, nobody knows.
    marx404, Aug 23, 2007
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    mack Guest

    Another slightly more exotic reason to stick to the 3K regimen is that you
    have a subconscious wish to keep up your dealer's lavish lifestyle and turn
    yourself into a pauper. Unless your driving takes you down lots of dusty
    roads and in extreme heat conditions, 5 thou is a more reasonable interval
    between changes.
    mack, Aug 29, 2007
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    bo peep Guest

    So you agree that the computer monitoring of the oil life does not
    work correctly? (it gives variable change intervals that typically are
    quite a bit longer than 5k). What do you believe is the cause of the
    bo peep, Aug 30, 2007
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    WGRG3 Guest

    ]30, 2007, 8:49am From:
    ] (bo peep)

    ]So you agree that the computer monitoring of
    ] the oil life does not work correctly? (it gives
    ] variable change intervals that typically are
    ] quite a bit longer than 5k). What do you
    ] believe is the cause of the problem?

    I think the oil computer monitoring is set to go off every 7500 miles.
    That is when the one on my L-300 went off. I had changed oil twice
    before it went off the first time. If I waited the full 7500 my oil
    would be like mud. I find it hard to believe that the manual says change
    oil every 7500 miles. Does anyone really wait that long?
    WGRG3, Aug 31, 2007
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    bo peep Guest

    The topic is oil changes in the ION, not the other models. The
    computer monitoring in the ION is based on how the car is driven, not
    the mileage. It looks continuously at things like engine temperature,
    RPM, load, etc. The results are reported to the owner monthly via
    email/onstar in the form of "Remaining Oil Life" and a percentage
    quote. It's found on the "Ecotec" engines.
    bo peep, Sep 3, 2007
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    David Guest

    As a matter of interest, the COLD weather will do more harm to engine oil
    than HOT weather.
    For example, less than 1,000 miles in northern Canada in the winter used
    over 70% of the oil life. Over 4,000 miles in California used only 60% of
    the oil life.
    Cold starting produces huge amounts of oil contamination and sludge. This
    is proven by weighing a used filter after 1,000 miles of stop and go driving
    in the winter, and 5.000 miles of highway driving in the summer and
    comparing the weights. This process will tell you about the realities of
    temperature on on engine oil.
    David, Sep 3, 2007
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