Ignition is locked

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by momcat21, Feb 20, 2005.

  1. momcat21

    momcat21 Guest

    Drove the car into the parking lot, turned it off, took out the key. Went
    back the next day - key won't turn the ignition. Steering is locked. It's
    like somebody switched keys (impossible since all three keys in the family
    won't turn the ignition). Steering wheel is locked, car in park, can't
    move it.
     
    momcat21, Feb 20, 2005
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    Tj Guest

    Turn the steering wheel, then turn the key
     
    Tj, Feb 20, 2005
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    tom Guest

    imho:

    Might have to rock(giggle) the stearing wheel back and forth while
    operating the key.

    hth,

    tom @ www.CarFleaMarket.com
     
    tom, Feb 20, 2005
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    marx404 Guest

    Hi, I believe that you will find this a very repeated topic if you were to
    search this forum. Anyways, that is a common "feature" of the Saturn
    ignition column. When in park, the column locks itself and requires turning
    the steering wheel in order to free the lock cylinder. This is some sort of
    safety feature, I had once been told that this is for anti-theft and also
    helps if the car is parked on a hill.

    No worries, wiggle or turn the sterring wheel if this occurs, then the key
    will turn.
    marx404
     
    marx404, Feb 20, 2005
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    James1549 Guest

    Typically you have to "rock" the steering wheel back and forth on mine
    also and I figured out why. When I turn off the ignition, the wheel is
    not really locked until you move it abit for the lock pawl to fall into
    the groove.

    Then I noticed that when I get out of the car, I pull myself out using
    the steering wheel moving it to a locked position. But now it has
    stress on it because the PS is not working with the engine being off.
    Needless to say, you must release the tension before the key will turn
    when starting the car the next time.

    Now for the bad news... the lock cylinders in the early Saturns are
    notorius for going bad. I know, I had to replace mine once I got it
    towed home. Actually my key got stuck in the cylinder and wouldn't let
    me turn it either way or come out.

    It is a tricky repair, but not impossible. James
     
    James1549, Feb 21, 2005
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    Saturn Guest

    I am going to go in a little bit of direction and say it is a worn key.
    My '00 LS1 would wear the key down very quickly so that the key would
    go in but you would realyy jiggle and play with it before it would
    ingage. Try a different key and if that is the issue then get a new
    key made from the master if you have one.
     
    Saturn, Feb 21, 2005
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    tom Guest


    Ouch, I'm sure through the tow you were cussing up a storm, or atleast
    I would be. ;)

    later,

    tom @ www.WorkAtHomePlans.com
     
    tom, Feb 22, 2005
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  8. momcat21

    momcat21 Guest

    We tried three different keys -- none of them work, so it's not a worn key.
    Also tried jiggling the steering wheel -- several attempts -- nothing.
    Looks like we've got to have it towed. Thanks for all the help--wish we
    had an easy answer.
     
    momcat21, Feb 24, 2005
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    I've had a similar problem in another vehicle and have managed to get by for
    a couple years by removing and re-lubricating the lock assembly from the
    vehicle. The funny thing is you need to be able to turn the key to remove
    the cylinder on my Chrysler which has had this problem. I learned that you
    can take a small hammer and tap on the key a bit and if you turn while doing
    it then it will unlock. Once I've gotten it disassembled and lubricated it
    usually has worked fine for the next 9-12 months but when cold weather comes
    it gets stuck again. I know I need to break down and buy another cylinder,
    but the want $300 to "key" it to my VIN from the dealer so I have been
    delaying...

    Maybe this procedure can help you on the Saturn.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Feb 24, 2005
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    Napalm Heart Guest

    You may have to do more than just 'jiggle' the steering wheel. If
    there is any pressure loaded on the wheel, you may have to put a good
    amount of force into moving the steering wheel while trying to move
    the key.

    Ken
     
    Napalm Heart, Feb 24, 2005
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    Dan Duncan Guest

    I had this happen to me a few years back on a Ford. The lock had actually
    failed and wouldn't turn when I put either of my keys in. (My daily key
    was somewhat worn, but my spare was still nearly new.) I just called a
    mobile locksmith and he brought a blank key and a file and filed down the
    inside of the old lock until it would turn with the blank. Once it turned,
    he popped it right out and popped in a new lock cylinder. The whole process
    only took a few minutes and wasn't very expensive and I didn't have to
    call a tow truck.

    -DanD
     
    Dan Duncan, Feb 24, 2005
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    block Guest

    These locks fail constantly. The most common symptom is the key will
    get trapped in the ACC position and won't turn either way or come out.
    This situation requires a replacement cylinder. If it just won't
    turn, I'd suspect a bent tumbler, which would most likely not require a
    new cylinder.

    Solution:
    You should call out a reputable Automotive locksmith to fix the
    problem. You save a tow and get back on the road in a flash (if he is
    any good). And I guarantee you it will cost less than the dealer or an
    unexperienced mechanic.
     
    block, Mar 2, 2005
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    Ron Herfurth Guest


    I have a slightly different issue - the key will not come out. Except for
    the very hottest days, my ignition key kas been stuck in the ignition for 7
    years. Everything else works fine, I use the key on my key chain to unlock
    the door. On the very hottest days of the year the key will wiggle a little
    more (or maybe it chirps at me -don't remember exactly) so I give it a
    little extra pull and it comes out.

    My original cylinder worked fine until I took it in at 35 months to get some
    pre end of warranty service. After 4 hours I asked what in the world was
    wrong with my poor-still-under-warranty car. They said they were done long
    ago but when the pulled it out of the service bay and parked it for me to
    pick up the key broke off. So they had to replaced the cylinder with one
    that worked fine for about a year. I've had it back to the dealer several
    times and told them that the key was stuck but they never suggested doing
    anything and I never asked for anything.
    Ron 94 SL-1 108,000
     
    Ron Herfurth, Mar 2, 2005
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    leaf Guest

    I do not know if you drive a Standard or an Automatic. If it is an
    Automatic, the shifter has to be in park to remove the key. Therefore,
    there is an electrical/mechanical interlock that releases the key. If the
    switch at the shifter is bad or more likely the wire that sends the signal
    is disconnected, then the key will never come out. All of the cables in the
    steering column have to be hooked up and properly strain relieved or they
    will come apart when the covering is put back on. I know some people in the
    Saturn Dealerships are extremely careless about the work they do first hand!

    Hope this helps,
    Frank 95SL1, 96SW2
     
    leaf, Mar 2, 2005
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