Hyundi Elantra vs Saturn Ion2

Friend of mine suggested I consider an Elantra over the Ion2. He said
it is at least as good a car, comes with a 5 yr bumper to bumper
warranty, snd has zero finance purchasing.

Comments please

 

Slapped together by Korea's finest Vs the UAW's finest. That's a
gamble. Otherwise, realize at least older ones had Chrysler designed
transmissions, which means you can expect the transmission to be a 'wear
item' with a 30,000 lifespan.

Power isn't standard or even optional, though if you had an early 90's
SL or SC, you won't feel out of place.

Then again, I've often commented to people that the only thing that can
make Korean cars seem decent is when Chinese cars hit the US shores...

 

At least Hyundai's are one step above Kia's.

Up until 2004 the Elantra was a flat out death trap so I cant fault
Hyundai on that car anymore... The question becomes do you want a car
that has no parts availability and high parts cost or a car with many
common and shared parts with its GM brethren. The Ecotec is GM's new
standard 4 cylinder which is very well designed. I havent a clue what
Hyundai has that is trustworthy or noteworthy.
Hyundai has to have those higher warranties because no one trust their
engineering. Plus since their cars are so cheaply made the longer
warranty is factored into their price. Btw Korean car resale values fall
through the roof after purchase. Once you get the 5 years out of it be
prepared to scrap it out.

 

excellent points blah blah...hadn't thought of parts availability and cost

 

basically what blah blah said. Definately pre-'04 in a Sonata (and most
Hyundais) is nfg. However, do check out the Sonata, especially the '05
models, wow! Alot of bang for the buck and the Sonat has improved on its
safety also, but I wouldnt go as far as saying that it is safer than a
Saturn, which has a proven real-life record. The XG300 (thier flagship) is
quite a car also. They have come a long way in the last few yrs.
Check out the NHTSA web site for crash testing on above said vehicles also.
Saturn needs to step up to the plate again for '06 model yr. to better pass
these tests, but in real world situations, the ION has already saved quite a
few lives.

marx404

 

beef (buy steak or roast, do not pre-boil).

Pie crust (see index)
Whole fresh pre-mie; eviscerated, head, hands and feet removed
Onions, bell pepper, celery
½ cup wine
Root vegetables of choice (turnips, carrots, potatoes, etc) cubed

Make a crust from scratch - or go shamefully to the frozen food section
of your favorite grocery and select 2 high quality pie crusts (you
will need one for the top also).
Boil the prepared delicacy until the meat starts to come off the bones.
Remove, de-bone and cube; continue to reduce the broth.
Brown the onions, peppers and celery.
Add the meat then season, continue browning.
De-glaze with sherry, add the reduced broth.
Finally, put in the root vegetables and simmer for 15 minutes.
Allow to cool slightly.
Place the pie pan in 375 degree oven for a few minutes so bottom crust is not soggy,
reduce oven to 325.
Fill the pie with stew, place top crust and with a fork, seal the crusts together
then poke holes in top.
Return to oven and bake for 30 minutes, or until pie crust is golden brown.



Sudden Infant Death Soup

SIDS: delicious in winter, comparable to old fashioned Beef and Vegetable Soup.
Its free, you can sell the crib, baby clothes, toys, stroller... and so easy to
procure if such a lucky find is at hand (just pick him up from the crib and
he?s good to go)!

SIDS victim, cleaned
½ cup cooking oil
Carrots
onions
broccoli
whole cabbage
fresh green beans
potato
turnip
celery
tomato
½ stick butter
1 cup cooked pasta (macaroni, shells, etc.)

Remove as much meat as possible, cube, and brown in hot oil.
Add a little water, season, then add the carcass.
Simmer for half an hour keeping the stock thick.
Remove the carcass and add the vegetables slowly to the stock,