help with clutch disengage issue please?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Carjunky, May 15, 2006.

  1. Carjunky

    Carjunky Guest

    I read a simular article about clutch not disengaging. I bought a 92 sl2 with
    a blown engine, I replaced the engine and At the same time i replaced the
    clutch. Now back together the clutch will not disengage.I took the slave
    cylinder out and it pumps out with the pedal depressed. I am stumped to what
    the problem is. When the engine was taken out the fork had come off the fork
    ball stud and the clip fell out. I put it together the best i thought. Is it
    possible if that is intalled incorectly that would happen? or any advice on
    what to check/test to determine the problem?
     
    Carjunky, May 15, 2006
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  2. Carjunky

    SnoMan Guest


    If you installed the fork wrong, that would cause your problem.
     
    SnoMan, May 15, 2006
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  3. Carjunky

    Carjunky Guest

    i don't know that the fork was installed wrong. it is possible, is there
    anyway to tell before removing the tranny? or other things i can test before?
    let me know. thank you p.s. is it just that little clip that holds the
    fork on the opp. of the slave?
     
    Carjunky, May 15, 2006
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  4. Carjunky

    SnoMan Guest


    Yes on the clip. On inspecting before you remove tranny. Check to make
    sure slave is fully actuating the fork externally. It should move
    around 5/8 to 3/4 of a inch.
     
    SnoMan, May 16, 2006
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  5. So since i actually had not seen how the fork mounts to the ball stud, could
    you explain to me how this mounts on. The clip is actually called a fork
    retainer, and i beleive a rubber triangle deal called a fork stabalizer(how
    is that installed relation to the fork? When the slave cylinder was intalled
    on the tranny, it had some play in it like you could push it in farther and
    wobble it side to side. i don't know if this is a problem or normal? I realy
    appreciate the help, things are looking a little grim.
     
    Carjunky via CarKB.com, May 16, 2006
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  6. Carjunky

    SnoMan Guest


    Basically with all manuals with that style fork, it rides on the ball
    and the clip keeps it from falling off. The fact that you have a lot
    of play tend to suggest that fork was improperly installed. Another
    possibilty is that the wrong clutch and pressure plate (or throwout
    bearing) was installed and it has a different height inside where
    throwout bearing rides and causing the problem which linkage length
    not being correct now. It is pretty mucha sure thing that you will
    need to remove it again.
     
    SnoMan, May 16, 2006
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  7. Alright I have removed the tranny. The fork looks good, intalled correctly.
    With out tension on the slave, but installed, there is play in the actual
    slave where it mounts to the tranny. How do i determine if i got the right
    kit from autozone by looking at it, measuring it? I am clueless at this point
    to why the clutch did not release, any imput would be much appreciated, thank
    you.
     
    Carjunky via CarKB.com, May 17, 2006
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  8. Carjunky

    SnoMan Guest


    Did you replace the slave cylinder too? Also did you replace throwout
    bearing and clutch as well? (just trying to get a picture on how to
    fix this)
     
    SnoMan, May 17, 2006
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  9. Did you replace the slave cylinder too? Also did you replace throwout
    The slave cyliinder had not been replaced. Also a clutch kit replaced,
    w/throwout bearing. I did some research, the clutch fork stabilizer( little
    plastic peice around stud) had been attached to the fork w/ the retainer clip.
    Is this clear cut my problem? I don't know if that would do it or not. I
    ordered a new one because it got bugered up, it will come friday.
     
    Carjunky via CarKB.com, May 18, 2006
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  10. Carjunky

    SnoMan Guest


    IF the plastic unit goes around the ball between it and fork, I would
    say that it is likely your problem but make sure that the clutch
    pressure plate if it was replace has the proper height and throwout
    travel too.
     
    SnoMan, May 18, 2006
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  11. how do i check hight and throwout travel?
     
    Carjunky via CarKB.com, May 18, 2006
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  12. Carjunky

    SnoMan Guest


    Fron travel you measue the stroke of the slave cylinder when pedeal is
    depressed one time. For hieght, you measure how high the throughout
    bearing collar ring on pressure plate is from flywheel when it is bolt
    to it (if you have acces to old clutch and pressure plate you can
    compare this)
     
    SnoMan, May 19, 2006
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  13. The height on the new pressure plate is slightly more, i believe this is just
    between manufacture. What are the correct bolt torque for the presure plate?
    thank you
     
    Carjunky via CarKB.com, May 19, 2006
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  14. Carjunky

    SnoMan Guest


    This is not good, it should be less because with a new clutch disc the
    plate will be retracted more before you disengage it. (this height
    increases as clutchs wear so it should start out lower) Height
    "should" be the same or less than old one. I do not have torque spec
    handy but I can dig it up if need but usually it is in the range 35 to
    50 ft lbs depending on bolt size.
     
    SnoMan, May 19, 2006
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  15. well let's make sure we got one thing straight first.the height is measured
    up to the top of the fingers on the pressure plate that the throwout bearing
    rides on, right?
     
    Carjunky via CarKB.com, May 19, 2006
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  16. Specifying what i just said. The pressure plat laid face down, measured from
    the ground to the top of the fingers, the new one is about 1/8" taller than
    the old one.
     
    Carjunky via CarKB.com, May 19, 2006
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  17. Carjunky

    SnoMan Guest

    Correct.
     
    SnoMan, May 19, 2006
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  18. Carjunky

    SnoMan Guest


    But is this mounted to flywheel or not (with clucth disc installed)
     
    SnoMan, May 19, 2006
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