help with clutch disengage issue please?

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I read a simular article about clutch not disengaging. I bought a 92 sl2 with
a blown engine, I replaced the engine and At the same time i replaced the
clutch. Now back together the clutch will not disengage.I took the slave
cylinder out and it pumps out with the pedal depressed. I am stumped to what
the problem is. When the engine was taken out the fork had come off the fork
ball stud and the clip fell out. I put it together the best i thought. Is it
possible if that is intalled incorectly that would happen? or any advice on
what to check/test to determine the problem?
 
I read a simular article about clutch not disengaging. I bought a 92 sl2 with
a blown engine, I replaced the engine and At the same time i replaced the
clutch. Now back together the clutch will not disengage.I took the slave
cylinder out and it pumps out with the pedal depressed. I am stumped to what
the problem is. When the engine was taken out the fork had come off the fork
ball stud and the clip fell out. I put it together the best i thought. Is it
possible if that is intalled incorectly that would happen? or any advice on
what to check/test to determine the problem?


If you installed the fork wrong, that would cause your problem.
 
i don't know that the fork was installed wrong. it is possible, is there
anyway to tell before removing the tranny? or other things i can test before?
let me know. thank you p.s. is it just that little clip that holds the
fork on the opp. of the slave?
 
i don't know that the fork was installed wrong. it is possible, is there
anyway to tell before removing the tranny? or other things i can test before?
let me know. thank you p.s. is it just that little clip that holds the
fork on the opp. of the slave?


Yes on the clip. On inspecting before you remove tranny. Check to make
sure slave is fully actuating the fork externally. It should move
around 5/8 to 3/4 of a inch.
 
So since i actually had not seen how the fork mounts to the ball stud, could
you explain to me how this mounts on. The clip is actually called a fork
retainer, and i beleive a rubber triangle deal called a fork stabalizer(how
is that installed relation to the fork? When the slave cylinder was intalled
on the tranny, it had some play in it like you could push it in farther and
wobble it side to side. i don't know if this is a problem or normal? I realy
appreciate the help, things are looking a little grim.
 
So since i actually had not seen how the fork mounts to the ball stud, could
you explain to me how this mounts on. The clip is actually called a fork
retainer, and i beleive a rubber triangle deal called a fork stabalizer(how
is that installed relation to the fork? When the slave cylinder was intalled
on the tranny, it had some play in it like you could push it in farther and
wobble it side to side. i don't know if this is a problem or normal? I realy
appreciate the help, things are looking a little grim.


Basically with all manuals with that style fork, it rides on the ball
and the clip keeps it from falling off. The fact that you have a lot
of play tend to suggest that fork was improperly installed. Another
possibilty is that the wrong clutch and pressure plate (or throwout
bearing) was installed and it has a different height inside where
throwout bearing rides and causing the problem which linkage length
not being correct now. It is pretty mucha sure thing that you will
need to remove it again.
 
Alright I have removed the tranny. The fork looks good, intalled correctly.
With out tension on the slave, but installed, there is play in the actual
slave where it mounts to the tranny. How do i determine if i got the right
kit from autozone by looking at it, measuring it? I am clueless at this point
to why the clutch did not release, any imput would be much appreciated, thank
you.
 
Alright I have removed the tranny. The fork looks good, intalled correctly.
With out tension on the slave, but installed, there is play in the actual
slave where it mounts to the tranny. How do i determine if i got the right
kit from autozone by looking at it, measuring it? I am clueless at this point
to why the clutch did not release, any imput would be much appreciated, thank
you.


Did you replace the slave cylinder too? Also did you replace throwout
bearing and clutch as well? (just trying to get a picture on how to
fix this)
 
Did you replace the slave cylinder too? Also did you replace throwout
bearing and clutch as well? (just trying to get a picture on how to
fix this)

The slave cyliinder had not been replaced. Also a clutch kit replaced,
w/throwout bearing. I did some research, the clutch fork stabilizer( little
plastic peice around stud) had been attached to the fork w/ the retainer clip.
Is this clear cut my problem? I don't know if that would do it or not. I
ordered a new one because it got bugered up, it will come friday.
 
The slave cyliinder had not been replaced. Also a clutch kit replaced,
w/throwout bearing. I did some research, the clutch fork stabilizer( little
plastic peice around stud) had been attached to the fork w/ the retainer clip.
Is this clear cut my problem? I don't know if that would do it or not. I
ordered a new one because it got bugered up, it will come friday.


IF the plastic unit goes around the ball between it and fork, I would
say that it is likely your problem but make sure that the clutch
pressure plate if it was replace has the proper height and throwout
travel too.
 
how do i check hight and throwout travel?


Fron travel you measue the stroke of the slave cylinder when pedeal is
depressed one time. For hieght, you measure how high the throughout
bearing collar ring on pressure plate is from flywheel when it is bolt
to it (if you have acces to old clutch and pressure plate you can
compare this)
 
SnoMan said:
Fron travel you measue the stroke of the slave cylinder when pedeal is
depressed one time. For hieght, you measure how high the throughout
bearing collar ring on pressure plate is from flywheel when it is bolt
to it (if you have acces to old clutch and pressure plate you can
compare this)

The height on the new pressure plate is slightly more, i believe this is just
between manufacture. What are the correct bolt torque for the presure plate?
thank you
 
The height on the new pressure plate is slightly more, i believe this is just
between manufacture


This is not good, it should be less because with a new clutch disc the
plate will be retracted more before you disengage it. (this height
increases as clutchs wear so it should start out lower) Height
"should" be the same or less than old one. I do not have torque spec
handy but I can dig it up if need but usually it is in the range 35 to
50 ft lbs depending on bolt size.
 
well let's make sure we got one thing straight first.the height is measured
up to the top of the fingers on the pressure plate that the throwout bearing
rides on, right?
 
Specifying what i just said. The pressure plat laid face down, measured from
the ground to the top of the fingers, the new one is about 1/8" taller than
the old one.
 
well let's make sure we got one thing straight first.the height is measured
up to the top of the fingers on the pressure plate that the throwout bearing
rides on, right?

Correct.
 
Specifying what i just said. The pressure plat laid face down, measured from
the ground to the top of the fingers, the new one is about 1/8" taller than
the old one.


But is this mounted to flywheel or not (with clucth disc installed)
 

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