GAS MILEAGE

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Elaine again ^,,^, Dec 24, 2005.

  1. Can somebody tell me why i get only 23 mpg city on my '97 auto. sl2?
    I've had a '95 and 6 auto. and both got 28+29 mpg. TIA
     
    Elaine again ^,,^, Dec 24, 2005
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  2. Elaine again ^,,^

    p_vouers Guest

    tune-up??? dirty air filter?? cold weather??? underiflated tires??too
    wide a tire???put on weight from Christmas overeating?? bad struts???
    dirty injectors???wrong oil???
     
    p_vouers, Dec 25, 2005
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  3. Gee all that can affect gas mileage? I took another reading today, 25
    mpg....2 more than precious and I've done nothing to the car.
     
    Elaine again ^,,^, Dec 25, 2005
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  4. Elaine again ^,,^

    Bob Shuman Guest

    If the car is properly tuned, filters replaced, and the tires are inflated -
    this is usually the thing that affects mileage the most (my tires state a
    maximum of 44 PSI, I inflate them to 35 despite manufacturer door stating 26
    PSI is recommendation).

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Dec 25, 2005
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  5. In additiona to the other comments you've received, winterized fuel should
    reduce mpg's, so does extended idling (gridlock traffic or letting the car
    warm up in the driveway before venturing out), and or a tired engine (high
    mileage, oil usage, etc).
     
    Jonnie Santos, Dec 25, 2005
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  6. Elaine again ^,,^

    p_vouers Guest

    What IS winterized fuel??
     
    p_vouers, Dec 26, 2005
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  7. Thanks for all your help. It's not a high mileage car,it's only got
    78,000 but I do mostly stop and go traffic. I live in Miami now but I do
    remember having to "winterize" the gas by putting in some kind of gas
    antifreeze. My next oil change will replace all filters and I'll inflate
    my tires to 35. Don't have to warmup the car anymore. :) I love my
    Saturn
     
    Elaine again ^,,^, Dec 26, 2005
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  8. What IS winterized fuel??
    The volatility is altered through chemical composition to make it burn more
    easily in the cold, winter air. That change or reformulation has less
    energy content and you have to burn more of it. So usually winterized fuel
    will result in lower mpg's... Do a Google search on 'gasoline
    formulations' and you'll find probably more than you ever wanted to know...
     
    Jonnie Santos, Dec 26, 2005
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  9. Elaine again ^,,^

    C. E. White Guest

    If you are comparing single tank averages, your numbers are almost
    meaningless. Even if you are very careful (same pump, same car position,
    etc.), it is very easy to vary the amount of gas you put in your tank by +/-
    one gallon. A one gallon error on a 14 gallon tank can make a huge
    difference, especially if you are figuring the economy on a partial tank
    run. You need to record your fuel purchases for several weeks and calculate
    the average over three or four tank fulls of gas.

    With modern OBD-II engine controls, you don't need to worry too much about
    traditional tunes-up items. OBD-II systems are very good at detecting miss
    firing cylinders and usually keep the fuel air ratio controlled close to the
    ideal.

    Factors that are likely to affect you fuel economy:

    Gas formulation - winter/summer formulations differ and formulations differ
    by location. Some areas (Minnesota and others) blend ethanol with the gas
    and this can decrease fuel economy by 3% to 5%.

    Under inflated tires - be sure to make your tires are inflated per the
    manufacturer's recommendations (assuming you are still using the OE size and
    type)

    Tire type - P series tires provide better fuel economy than similar non-P
    series tires. If you have changed tire sizes, the odometer may be incorrect
    and this will affect your fuel economy calculations.

    Dragging brakes - improperly adjusted drum brakes and/or disc breaks with
    dragging calipers can adversely affect your fuel economy.

    Additional weight - Are you carrying around items you don't need? More
    weight = decreased fuel economy.

    Driving style - have you changed where you drive, or how you drive? Maybe
    the '97 encourages more spirited driving. I keep a book on my Vue. It is
    shared by three drivers. I average around 21 mpg. My SO average close to 25
    mpg. My 16 year old son averages less than 18. Same car, same tires, same
    gas, different drivers - greater than 20% variation in fuel economy.

    Increased accessory load - does the '97 have more features that might
    increase the load on the engine? Anything that consumes more electricity
    will decrease fuel economy since the engine driven alternator has to supply
    the energy.

    Engine oil - are you using the correct viscosity Energy Conserving oil?

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 26, 2005
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  10. Um, if I remember correctly, does not Jonnie Santos live in San Diego? Do
    they sell winterized fuel there when the temperature falls below 70? :)

    (Temp here is Boston is in the 20's)

    -David
     
    David Teichholtz, Jan 2, 2006
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  11. ....it's in the upper 50's tonight because of the rain - it's been in the low
    50's when skies are clear in my area (we're about 4 miles to the ocean which
    keeps us from getting too cold). If you drive about a half hour east of
    here the temps will go into the low 30's, and if you feel like driving into
    the mountains, you may see some snow around 6,000 foot. Nothing to compare
    to the East as far as temps go - I don't know how people deal with it. I'm
    thinking Hawaii might be a nice place to retire to, at least it's warmer
    than here... (smile)

    I always suspected we got winterized fuel, either on purpose or because it
    was surplus - I don't know how gasoline is managed and they don't announce
    what flavor of the week they're pumping. I think there's a disclaimer on
    the pumps that say the gasoline 'may' contain ethanol. What a racket.
     
    Jonnie Santos, Jan 2, 2006
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  12. Elaine again ^,,^

    o-dawg Guest

    ....

    We use something called "clothes" and somehow stay warm.

    Back to the original topic, gas mileage goes up with higher
    temps and down with lower temps. YMMV.
     
    o-dawg, Jan 2, 2006
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  13. I never was good in arithmetic, latest reading I'm getting almost 37
    mpg, mostly city. Does that sound right?
     
    Elaine again ^,,^, Jan 5, 2006
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  14. Elaine again ^,,^

    Oppie Guest

    On what type of car? Pretty good if it is real...
    I don't trust the gas guage, I usually keep tabs of how much fuel I add to
    the tank when filling up. Over a few tankfuls this averages out. Miles
    travelled since last fill / Gallons added at fill-up = MPG

    My mileage had fallen off lately. I took the lw300 in for state inspection
    and they said I need 4 tires (ouch!). They did a 4 wheel alignment since the
    tire wear was due to something out of whack. I also had the auto
    transmission serviced (fluid + filter). Driving is WAY better today (if only
    that my wallet is now much lighter) and I expect that the MPG should improve
    significantly.

    Oppie

    btw, how's the cat?
     
    Oppie, Jan 5, 2006
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  15. I sent you an email but it came back "bad address". My Saturn is a '97
    SL2 automatic. Which cat? I have 5 and you?
     
    Elaine again ^,,^, Jan 5, 2006
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