Drive car without keyfob?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by John Verheul, May 17, 2008.

  1. John Verheul

    John Verheul Guest

    I just bought a used 2005 VUE that has the anti theft package. Is
    there a way to open up and drive the car without disarming the alarm
    using the keyfob? There are times I'm at athletic events and carrying
    the keyfob with me would be...annoying. This is my first car with any
    sort of alarm or keyfob.

    I'm also waiting on a manual, that's why I'm asking here...otherwise
    I'd just RTFM.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
    John Verheul, May 17, 2008
  2. John Verheul

    Steph Guest

    Unlock the car with key, put the key in the ignition and start the vehicle
    within a specific amount of time ... 15 - 30 seconds (don't have TFM with
    Steph, May 20, 2008
  3. John Verheul

    WGRG3 Guest

    Sure there is, just do not turn your alarm on! If your VUE is like my
    L-300 you can just lock all the doors from the inside, and then just
    take the key to lock, and unlock, the drivers side door. Of course you
    will not have the security alarm on, but you can always get a "club"
    like I have. Who pays any attention to "car alarms" these days anyway?
    If you hear one, 10 times out of 10, it is because the owner tripped the
    WGRG3, May 20, 2008
  4. John Verheul

    SMS Guest

    Oh geez, of all the security devices available, the club ranks below
    siren-only alarms in effectiveness.

    "Widely advertised, this device is probably the best known anti theft
    product on the market today. But as demonstrated on CBS' American
    Journal, a car thief using a hacksaw can cut through the vehicle's
    steering wheel and remove The Club in just 22 seconds! The program also
    demonstrated how a thief can spray "freon" into the locking mechanism of
    The Club, hit the now - frozen lock with a hammer, and shatter it like
    glass, enabling him to remove The Club. In addition, there is a device
    called the Club Buster, which will break The Club and AutoLock devices
    in 60 seconds. The Club Buster is intended for locksmiths, tow truck
    operators, and auto repossession professionals, but any thief can buy it
    over the internet right now for $93." See "".
    The verbal alarm isn't what's useful, it's the disabling of the ignition
    system. The factory alarms often tie directly into the computer, rather
    than simply a relay on the starter. The after-market systems are more
    easily bypassed. If you really want to be protected, install a system
    that also cuts off the fuel supply.
    SMS, May 20, 2008
  5. John Verheul

    WGRG3 Guest

    The thing with the Club is not how secure it is it is the fact that it
    is on the steering wheel. If you were a theif, and you saw two cars one
    with a Club on it, and one without one, which car are you going to go
    after? Even though a club may be compromised in a few minutes, or
    seconds that is still time that the theif does not want to spend
    stealing a car. And a lot of car theives do not carry around a Hack Saw,
    or Freon! In fact a news station in my area did a story on car theives,
    and they talked to a former car thief, and he said he never went after
    cars that had the club on them because of the time factor, A car theif
    wants to be gone as soon as possible. And taking the time to disable a
    Club is never a good idea, when you are breaking the Law!
    WGRG3, May 21, 2008
  6. John Verheul

    Oppie Guest

    Most folks with alarm systems seemingly don't care if the alarm goes off (or
    purposely trip it) as they open the car. I view it as being rude and about
    the same level of annoyance as having someone fart in a full express
    elevator (with 20 floors to go). Beyond this, it desensitizes everyone else
    to the alarm going off. If it's an every-day occurrence, why bother looking
    when one goes off.

    Me, I get embarrassed when I accidentally trip the panic button and the horn
    starts beeping.
    Oppie, May 21, 2008
  7. John Verheul

    SMS Guest

    The one that I could part out for more money.

    Theft rates are based on many factors, but two of the major factors is
    the demand for body parts from body shops (both in the U.S. and
    overseas), and the demand for the entire car in Mexico, Central and
    South America, and Asia. So-called "world cars" have high theft rates
    because the parts are often interchangeable on similar models all around
    the world. Cars that tend to be in a lot of minor accidents generate a
    lot of demand for body parts.

    I remember reading an article in 1999 when I was in Florida about the
    top stolen cars for south Florida, and was surprised that the Saturn S
    series was very high on the list (#3 IIRC). This was because the Saturn
    was very popular among elderly drivers that tended to be involved in a
    lot of fender benders in parking lots, and other low speed crashes.
    Since you couldn't really repair the polymer panels, there was a big
    demand for replacement panels.

    It's possible that a thief would prefer a vehicle with an easily
    defeatable security device, rather than taking the chance that the other
    vehicle would have some real security device such as an ignition
    cut-off, fuel cut-off, Lo-Jack, etc.
    SMS, May 21, 2008
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    John Verheul, May 22, 2008
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