Compression For DOHC

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Mike G., Oct 18, 2003.

  1. Mike G.

    Mike G. Guest

    Hi,

    I wanted to know what everyone else is getting for their compression numbers
    for the DOHC engine? I've got a '97 SC2 and the numbers are 141 and 142 PSI
    for all four cylinders.

    Saturn indicates the compression should be 172-205 PSI, this brings up the
    next question. I live at 8,300 ft. so should I adjust my compression
    numbers accordingly or do compression numbers stay static no matter where
    you are? I read in one book to add 2 PSI for every 1,000 ft. of altitude.

    Thanks,

    Mike
     
    Mike G., Oct 18, 2003
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  2. Mike G.

    BANDIT2941 Guest

    I wanted to know what everyone else is getting for their compression numbers
    When I had oil burning trouble, I had all cylinders but #1 at 200-205. #1 was
    140.

    I would think that your high altitude will alter compression. The air is less
    dense so in each stroke of the piston it is compressing less air.

    I don't know how much per 1000' feet, but since your numbers are all the same I
    would say that you don't have any problems there.

    Must be crazy living at 8300' !!
     
    BANDIT2941, Oct 18, 2003
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  3. Mike G.

    Kirk Kohnen Guest

    http://www.geospectra.net/kite/weather/h_altit.htm

    gives a table of different atmospheric densities under standard atmospheric
    conditions for different altitudes. I've reproduced it here, adding some
    columms:

    Altitude (ft) Pressure (mm hg) Temp (deg F) Density (%) Compensated
    141 psi
    Density Pressure
    0 29.92 59.0 100.0 141.0 141.0
    2,000 27.82 51.9 94.3 149.5 151.6
    4,000 25.84 44.7 88.8 158.8 163.3
    6,000 23.98 37.6 83.6 168.7 175.9
    8,000 22.22 30.5 78.6 179.4 189.9
    8,300 21.97 29.4 77.9 181.0 192.0
    10,000 20.57 23.3 73.8 191.1 205.1
    12,000 19.02 16.2 69.3 203.5 221.8
    14,000 17.57 9.1 65.0 216.9 240.1
    16,000 16.21 1.9 60.9 231.5 260.3


    I also took the liberty of inserting an 8,300 ft point in the table by
    linearly interpolating the 8,000 and the 10,000 ft points.

    Short Response:

    Your pressures are fine.

    Long Response:

    You have to compensate your pressures by (Sea Level Density)/(8,300 ft
    density) in order to find out what your car would do at sea level. If you
    do that, your 141 psi at 8,300 ft translates to 181 psi at sea level. This
    takes into account both the different pressures and the different
    temperatures.

    If you don't want to try to take into account different temperatures, then
    you merely compensate by (Sea Level Pressure)/(8,000 ft pressure). If you do
    that, your 141 psi at 8,300 translates to 192 psi at sea level.

    (The first case is presuming that you are testing with air at 29.4 degrees
    and would be testing at sea level with 59 degree air. The second case is
    presuming that you are testing in both places at 59 degrees).

    Since the range is 172 to 205 at sea level, I think you're fine.
     
    Kirk Kohnen, Oct 19, 2003
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  4. Mike G.

    Mike G. Guest

    Great info! I'll take it that the numbers are good then.

    Mike
     
    Mike G., Oct 20, 2003
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