Best Tires for L-Series?

Discussion in 'Saturn L-series' started by Orin Day, Jan 14, 2004.

  1. Orin Day

    Orin Day Guest

    Like others here my wife and I have had the tire/road noise problems with
    our L-Series (2001 LW300) - dealer replaced the tires at no charge after
    12K miles and added the shim kit. Now we're up to ~40K miles and the road
    noise has become unbearable. Dealer's service department of course said
    tough luck and gave a somewhat laughable quote for a set of Michelins,
    though they was somewhat amused when I said that on smooth pavement the
    car sounded like a semi.

    In the past (with other vehicles) I've had great luck with Michelin, good
    performance and great treadwear. But thus far this car eats tires - do
    the Michelins last any longer? Are there any particular models of
    Michelins that anybody has had success with, or any other tire brands that
    we should consider?

    Thanks much for any advice!

    Orin Day, Jan 14, 2004
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    Skid Guest

    I can't speak for the L-series, as I only have the S-series, but I think the
    Michelins last, at least the X-One's, however, I found that winter driving
    in snow was okay for the first few years, but after that, forget it, had to
    get a set of winter tires, and will use the Michelins in the summer. If your
    tires are wearing fast, get the alignment checked, check and adjust the tire
    pressure every month, and watch your speeds around corners.
    Skid, Jan 15, 2004
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  3. You have joined the ranks of lack of pleasure with Firestone tires. My
    tires were replaced due to cupping. I bought more Firestone tires. Well,
    the noise is back. I wonder if all L series provide a way to quickly
    destroy tires?
    New & Improved - N/F John, Jan 15, 2004
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    Skid Guest

    Skid, Jan 15, 2004
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    Orin Day Guest

    Skid, the L-series eats tires - the factory set was "chopped" after 10K
    miles of what I'd consider light duty driving - they were replaced under
    warranty along with a shim being installed that was standard on the next
    model year. All four tires were totally and equally ruined, and it wasn't
    uneven wear, they had been rotated by the dealer. The current tires
    have plenty of tread left but are "feathered" which makes them really

    [As an aside I wonder what it is about GM rear alignment, when I replaced
    the factory tires on my '96 S-10/ the tire folks shimmed the rear to the
    max and still couldn't achieve perfect alignment.]

    I've had no tire problems on the 2002 LS1 that I drive - tires are still
    great after 20K (8K of similar use to the LW300 plus 12K from first owner).

    As far as snow goes I'm in a climate that gets on average 7" of snow per
    year - usually two storms of 2"-5" - so snow handling isn't a big worry.
    Big snows mean everybody stays home until roads are passable (strange for
    me to deal with given my Chicago upbringing, but there just aren't the
    salt/plow trucks down here).

    Thanks for the tirerack link, when I excluded all but Michelin it
    suggested the Pilot XGT H4 - that's the tire the Saturn service department
    recommended. But I'm not convinced that tire will wear well.
    Orin Day, Jan 15, 2004
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    Oppie Guest

    Thanks for the heads-up on this Orin. I just bought the same vehicle used
    with 40k miles from a Saturn dealer. It had new Firestones on it, so I will
    watch tire wear very closely now.


    Oppie, Jan 15, 2004
  7. Gotta love the Affinity HP... we have a 2001 L300, and had all 4 tires
    replaced under warranty at 20-something thousand miles, and the alignment
    kit installed (it was more than just some shims - there was a small laundry
    list of stuff, iirc) - since then, we haven't had the problems with the
    tires cupping too badly - the affinities are junk, though... we are wearing
    through these at a 25-30k rate... maybe less... but the wear is reasonably
    even, and the tires are not cupped. We never really noticed a large
    increase in road noise - we had vibration issues at speed more than anything

    For tires, we will be considering the continental contiextreme contact and
    the Yokohama AVS dB S2 as well as possibly some other Yokohamas. I have
    been happy with Michelin's in the past when I have had them, and will
    probably check out sears to see what they have (they were selling a T-plus
    radial or something like that, which was a rebadged X-one with a
    substantially reduced pricetag)

    David & Caroline, Jan 16, 2004
  8. What is this alignment kit you are talking about? Is it a warranty item?

    New & Improved - N/F John, Jan 17, 2004
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    Napalm Heart Guest

    I'm using ContiExtremeContact on my '96 SL2. Best tires I've ever


    Napalm Heart, Jan 17, 2004
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    B. Peg Guest

    I bought a set of Goodyear Eagle HP and have been satisfied with them for
    road noise. Unfortunately, they will wear faster as they have a softer
    rubber compound. I suggest you visit some "old tire retailer" and ask him
    about cupping, heel-toe wear, road noise, etc. Some of the old timers have
    a wealth of info. As tires age, they get noiser too as they get harder.
    Nothing like a new set of tires. Oh, I run about 4 psi higher too on air
    since I was wearing the original set out on the edges and cupping them
    badly. I now have an even wear pattern.

    Fwiw, on motorcycles I only get around 4000 miles on a set of tires. Much
    softer for grip and much faster on wear (cost is twice that of car tire
    too!). Can't have both.

    B. Peg, Jan 17, 2004
  11. Absolutely

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    Dana Rohleder, Jan 17, 2004
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    Tom Betz Guest

    Quoth (Orin Day) in
    We're very happy with our year-old Dunlop SP Sport A2s. Great on wet and
    snow, as well as dry, on our 2000 LS1.
    Tom Betz, Jan 19, 2004
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    Napalm Heart Guest

    I had these on my '96 SL2 before I got the ContiExtremeContacts. The
    Contis made the Dunlops feel like slicks.

    Napalm Heart, Jan 19, 2004
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    K2NNJ Guest

    K2NNJ, Jan 20, 2004
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    ProfWdesk1 Guest

    The tires on my 92SL2 looked like new after 40,000 ... they probably had more
    than half tread ... I figure they could have gone 60,000 ... I have been
    replacing them one at at time and now have 48,000 on one of them. I went with
    the Michelins ... and they do give a softer ride. Roy
    ProfWdesk1, Jan 25, 2004
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