Battery Light

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dan Vos, Nov 12, 2003.

  1. Dan Vos

    Dan Vos Guest

    I have a 91 SC1 with about 114,000 miles on it. The car has been pretty
    decent over the past few years as long as I keep an eye on the oil level
    :)

    Recently the battery light started to come on while driving the Saturn. It
    does not always stay on and there really is no predictable pattern as to
    when it comes on. The battery was replaced about 5 years ago and it seems
    to be fine (no struggle when starting car at low temperature below 30
    degrees). The altenator was also replaced about 3 years ago.

    This has been happening for a couple of weeks and the car seems just fine.
    Any ideas as to what is going on?

    I also tried to see if I could get the light to go on by running the
    lights, heater fan on full, radio, rear defogger, etc. but the light stayed
    off.

    Thanks,
    Dan
     
    Dan Vos, Nov 12, 2003
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    5 years? My money would be on the battery. I think you are living on
    borrowed time. Most places that sell batteries will do a free electrical
    system charging check to make sure the alternator and voltage regulator are
    OK.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Nov 12, 2003
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  3. Dan Vos

    Joe Biadasz Guest

    Could be the battery getting weak or the altenator/regulator going bad..
    most garages will test this for you.. They will perform a load test on teh
    battery and the charge pull of the altenator. they will also test teh amps
    coming out of the altenator to see if it's up to spec..
     
    Joe Biadasz, Nov 12, 2003
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  4. Dan Vos

    Skid Guest

    5 years is a good time for a new battery, either that, or the belt is
    slipping.
     
    Skid, Nov 12, 2003
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  5. Dan Vos

    BANDIT2941 Guest

    5 years? My money would be on the battery. I think you are living on

    The only problem with what you guys are saying is that even if the battery is
    dead, the light won't come on unless the alternator isn't charging.
     
    BANDIT2941, Nov 12, 2003
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  6. Dan Vos

    Bob Shuman Guest

    On most vehicles if the battery has a shorted cell it will reduce the
    voltage and trigger the battery idiot light. Again, my money is on the
    battery, but I agree it could also be a slipping alternator belt, although I
    would expect you would see this most often under load and lower RPMs which
    did not match the description. The battery most likely has sulfur deposits
    and is internally shorted from age/use.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Nov 12, 2003
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  7. Dan Vos

    Joe Biadasz Guest

    Thats why I suggested to go to the auto store or garage and have the battery
    load tested and altenator charge pull and amperage draw.
     
    Joe Biadasz, Nov 13, 2003
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  8. Dan Vos

    Dan Hicks Guest

    I've never known a battery ligth to come on due to a bad battery,
    unless it was totally gone. Sounds like an alternator problem.
    Probably an intermittent contact in the alternator. You can
    probably safely drive the car until the problem becomes more
    persistent (though keep a set of jumper cables in the trunk).
     
    Dan Hicks, Nov 13, 2003
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    BANDIT2941 Guest

    On most vehicles if the battery has a shorted cell it will reduce the
    If a cell is shorted it may cause enough potential difference with the
    alternator to trigger the light.........but, a shorted cell should be
    consistent.....
     
    BANDIT2941, Nov 13, 2003
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  10. Dan Vos

    BANDIT2941 Guest

    I've never known a battery ligth to come on due to a bad battery,
    Thats what I'm saying........

    But, if the alt decides to totally go, jumper cables won't help........sure you
    can get it running when the other battery is hooked up, but you won't go far
    after the cables are unhooked.......
     
    BANDIT2941, Nov 13, 2003
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  11. Dan Vos

    Dan Vos Guest

    (BANDIT2941) wrote in

    Thanks for all of the feedback.

    Just to shed some light on the subject, it is very unlikely that a slipping
    belt is the problem. I replaced the belt tensioner about a year ago and
    the belt is in good shape. Not to mention, I have not heard a belt squeek
    from under the hood.

    After driving the car some more today, it seems like the light is not on
    when the car is first started but may come on after 10 minutes or so.

    I am going to get a new battery since the current one is 5 years old. It
    will die sooner or later anyway.

    Dan
     
    Dan Vos, Nov 13, 2003
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    Tim Shoppa Guest

    I'm guessing it's the alternator, with an intermittent failure.

    Others will say "but the alternator is only 3 years old"... but these
    Delco alternators really aren't all that great to begin with. Did
    you get a brand-new alternator or a rebuild? Some rebuilt units are
    better than new, others are not so reliable.

    Tim.
     
    Tim Shoppa, Nov 13, 2003
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    BANDIT2941 Guest

    I'm guessing it's the alternator, with an intermittent failure.
    That pretty much sums up my thoughts........
     
    BANDIT2941, Nov 13, 2003
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  14. It's the alternator!! The only reason the warning light is shaped like a
    battery is so it could be understood by someone of any language. Until the
    70s it usually read [ALT].

    You can ruin a new battery (or an old one) by running it discharged flat,
    like you'd do if your alternator dies next week and you need to drive home.
    You can even ruin a new alternator by charging a flat battery before its
    brushes seat well.

    Moral: Get checked out, don't be suprised if you buy both.
     
    Jeff McDonald, Nov 13, 2003
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  15. Dan Vos

    Dan Hicks Guest

    You can charge the battery off another car and have enough juice to
    get home or to the dealer.
     
    Dan Hicks, Nov 14, 2003
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  16. Dan Vos

    BANDIT2941 Guest

    You can charge the battery off another car and have enough juice to
    As long as you're not going far, its during the day, and you have time to sit
    hooked up to the other car for a bit.........
     
    BANDIT2941, Nov 15, 2003
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