Alternator?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Charles C, Nov 14, 2003.

  1. Charles C

    Charles C Guest

    Hi everyone,
    I have read a few posts about the symptoms of dying/dead alternators.
    I am wondering if what my 98 SL has indicates also a dead alternator.
    The instrument panel lights started to flicker at idle two days ago.
    The intensity does not just go down but also up. At higher RPMs they
    are ok. The dome light, aftermarket radio face, and headlights do not
    flicker, as far as I can tell. I did have to replace the battery about
    a month ago. Could this be the alternator/slipping belt or just a
    deffective light dimmer switch?
    Thanks.
     
    Charles C, Nov 14, 2003
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  2. Charles C

    Joe Biadasz Guest

    the lights dim and brighten with the engine rpm? As far as the belt. Nah,
    you have a serpentine belt they usally dont slip. and if they do you notice
    other things as well.. (ie: power steering jercky, temps higher then normal,
    etc)

    you mentioned you have an aftermarket stereo installed.. Anything else, like
    an ampflier? if you do, your Altenator may not be pushing out enough power
    at low RPM. if that is the case you need to get a bigger Alt. Bottom line.
    if you see this happening run your car to the garage and have the Charging
    system checked..

    they will check the alt voltage and amperage.. Could also be something as
    simple as corroded battery cables.
     
    Joe Biadasz, Nov 14, 2003
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  3. Charles C

    Dan Hicks Guest

    Check the light in the dark (all interior lights out) while the
    engine is being reved. If it lights dimly then the alternator is
    going south. If not, it could be going south or not -- hard to say.
     
    Dan Hicks, Nov 15, 2003
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  4. Charles C

    chuck smoko Guest

    Dan and Charles,
    A good test for an alternator that does not involve the dash light
    is to load the system. Do so by turning on the high beams, A/C,
    rear window defogger, radio and ... then see if you have more
    or less than 12 volts at the battery when you rev the motor to
    about 2000 rpm. You should have at least 12 volts or power is
    coming out of the battery. Expect 13 or so volts for a successful
    test. As the an alternator get more and more miles, the brushes
    wear and do not contact the comutator (spelling ?) as well.

    chuck s.
     
    chuck smoko, Nov 16, 2003
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  5. Charles C

    Joe Biadasz Guest

    thats a good test for voltage but you also have to see if the amperage is up
    to spec.. you can push 13.5 volt s which is good. but if the ampers is too
    low you wont charge at a rate to keep the battery supplied.


     
    Joe Biadasz, Nov 16, 2003
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  6. Charles C

    Dan Hicks Guest

    Another typical problem is that one phase goes out -- either an open
    coil or a bad diode. In that case the alternator will still charge
    (though not well) but the alternator light will glow dimly (since
    it's discharging 1/3 or the time). But your load test will work for
    that too, provided that a mechanical voltmeter is used that won't be
    fooled by the fluctuating voltage.

     
    Dan Hicks, Nov 17, 2003
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  7. Charles C

    Dan Hicks Guest

    If the alternator can maintain 13+ volts at full load (and with a
    good battery that takes a charge OK) then the amps are good. You
    can always take it to a shop where they put it on a load cell and
    measure peak amps, but the voltage at full load approach is every
    bit as valid.

     
    Dan Hicks, Nov 17, 2003
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  8. Charles C

    chuck smoko Guest

    Joe,
    Just like what Dan here wrote, with the load being all of the
    accessories like the the headlights and rear defroster, a bat-
    tery voltage > 12V can not be maintained unless the alternator
    is delivering the current. There was a subsequent post from
    Dan that also mentions other alternator problems of a bad
    diode or bad coil.

    I maintain that the > 12V voltage test will spot many of those
    as well. As crude as a test as I may have described, it is possible
    to do a just a simple meter. And one does not have to remove
    the alternator! Like a weightlifter, he (or she) can not perform
    a lift with an injury.

    chuck

    ps: Yes, the tester that many auto stores have is more "precise",
    but you have to remove it to test there.
     
    chuck smoko, Nov 18, 2003
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  9. Charles C

    BANDIT2941 Guest

    Just like what Dan here wrote, with the load being all of the
    Exactly........

    You should switch your signs though.......should be < 12 volts (for less than
    12 volts).
     
    BANDIT2941, Nov 18, 2003
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  10. Charles C

    BANDIT2941 Guest

    Just like what Dan here wrote, with the load being all of the
    Whups........disregard my previous post about the signs.......I read it wrong
    the first time.......
     
    BANDIT2941, Nov 18, 2003
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