'99 SL2 and Front Rotors

Discussion in 'Saturn S-series' started by K2NNJ, Jan 6, 2004.

  1. K2NNJ

    K2NNJ Guest

    I have a 1999 SL2 that now has 70k. 10k ago I had the front rotors replaced
    because of a Judder/Vibration on the steering wheel. About 3k later the
    same problem was happening the rotors are warping and i'm getting the
    judder/vibration again. Cutting the rotors only seems to delay the
    inevitable.

    Has anyone besides me having or had this problem? Could you please tell me
    what you did to fix. My uneducated guess, is that the brakes are getting
    too hot for the rotors. I have an appt. at a Vespia's shop to replace the
    rotors under warranty and i'm using a high performance brake pads from EBC
    Brakes.

    Thanks,
    Bob
     
    K2NNJ, Jan 6, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    Check two things - 1) Front wheel bearing is going slowly and leaking grease
    out that is getting on the rotor. 2) Rear brakes not self-adjusting,
    causing over working of front brakes.
     
    Guest, Jan 7, 2004
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    Simplstupd Guest

    Or the rotors that were used were inferior to begin with. Better to pay a
    little more up front than to have to go thru this every 10k on cheap Chinese
    rotors....
     
    Simplstupd, Jan 7, 2004
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  4. K2NNJ

    K2NNJ Guest

    When I first went to Vespia's they wanted to install Saturn OEM rotors. I
    told them I did not want that and they supposedly installed Raybestos.

    Maybe I need slotted rotors to dissipate the heat?

    Bob
     
    K2NNJ, Jan 7, 2004
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  5. So the vibration was only felt while braking, correct?

    My experience has been that the wheel nuts have to be torqued to factory
    spec (it's in your manual - my 97 with factory alloys runs 103 ft. lbs.).
    And then 30-50 miles you do it again (my fronts usually back off a little).

    Turning or cutting rotors is common, however in theory you are removing mass
    and they will heat fast (potentially fading faster too). I'm not sure
    running to the store and back you'd notice this as long as rotor thickness
    was kept within legal spec.

    From what I've read, the guys here have had pretty good luck with all
    rotors, from cheap Chinese rotors to more expensive ones, even sport rotors
    (drilled, slotted or both).

    I'd bet you a cyber nickel it's wheel nut torque.

    I've run factory rotors, Stillen's and Powerslot's.
     
    Jonnie Santos, Jan 7, 2004
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    Kirk Kohnen Guest

    I second what Jonnie said on both counts:

    1) Torque the nuts correctly. If you have the click type of torque wrench,
    it is no problem at all setting them to the correct torque.
    2) Don't be afraid to use the "cheap Chinese rotors." I've used them and had
    no problems whatsoever with them
     
    Kirk Kohnen, Jan 7, 2004
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    K2NNJ Guest

    I'll let you know on Fri. The appt is for thursday and I get the EBC pads
    on Wed.

    Thanks for the help!
    Bob
     
    K2NNJ, Jan 7, 2004
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  8. I went through a problem with warpped rotors, replaced them with ones from
    AutoZone (possibly made by Brembo but not that name) and EBC pads. I started
    getting vibration again after a tire change I thought here we go again.
    Someone posted a link which discussed material build up on the rotors as a
    possible caus (less than 0.001 inch). At the next oil change I rubbed the
    surfaces of the disk with 80 grit sandpaper in a swirl pattern- brake
    vibration was much reduced di the other side - it was gone! Give it a try
    YMMV. EBC pads are really good for my driving style, hard braking into
    ocrners as in autocross.

    Martyn
     
    Martyn Eastwood, Jan 7, 2004
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  9. I have EBC's GreenStuff pads currently - nice balance of initial bite and
    hot braking (not track stuff)...
     
    Jonnie Santos, Jan 8, 2004
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    Gary Klein Guest

    With my '99 I had aftermarket ones installed by the dealer of all
    things. I can't remember the brand, but the dealer offered two
    different brands with differing prices. Still work great now the car
    has 80k on it. Just make sure your wheels, whether steel or alloy are
    properly torqued.

    gck
     
    Gary Klein, Feb 26, 2004
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