98 SL2 Automatic Transmission Hesitates Shifting Into Reverse

Discussion in 'Saturn S-series' started by Richard Davies, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. When the transmission is hot, there is a 1 to 2 second pause when shifting
    from Park into Reverse. If I'm not thinking and step on the gas, the engine
    revs and the shift results in quite a jolt which I'm sure is not good for
    the transmission. If you just give it a little time, the shift occurs (you
    can tell cause the idle speed slows just a little), and things operate
    normally.

    I've had the transmission fluid replaced with no effect on this symptom. I
    haven't experimented to see if the problem occurs going from Drive into
    Reverse, guess I should try it and see. Going from Park into Drive works
    normally.

    Any ideas as to a cause and what I'm looking at in terms of a repair?

    Thanks,
    Richard Davies
     
    Richard Davies, Feb 24, 2006
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  2. Richard Davies

    Steve Guest

    Very common Saturn problem, just do a search on "transmission valve body".
    Before you go spending a fortune on tranny repair, try a double drain and
    fill (drain-fill-drive-drain-fill) with Mobil 1 synthetic ATF fluid. It
    solved the problem on my '99 SC2.
    Steve
     
    Steve, Feb 24, 2006
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  3. Richard Davies

    Roy Guest

    Some people refer to it as "reverse slam" so do a search for that as well.
    Somebody posted a procedure for it here a few months ago but I don't see it
    now (basically replace fluid/filter, heat it up in reverse, replace
    fluid/filter again). My girlfriends car was doing it last spring/summer but
    it seems to have worked itself out (for now).
     
    Roy, Feb 25, 2006
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    D. Gignac Guest

    D. Gignac, Feb 25, 2006
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    p_vouers Guest

    take it to saturn to have it cheked!! Most of the time it is only a
    loose bolt on a shift shaft.. about a $70 repair at saturn.
     
    p_vouers, Feb 26, 2006
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  6. Richard Davies

    SnoMan Guest


    Not sure I would do this. Not the drain and refill but the switch to
    SYN fluid because sometimes it can be a can of worms with a older
    tranny or eng. I do not see mention of the filter being changed though
    which can impede the flow of fluid if it is clogged some.
     
    SnoMan, Feb 27, 2006
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    p_vouers Guest

    I should expound on the problem that we had fixed.. My son's car after
    it would warm up would take about 2 sec to go into reverse then it
    would slam in reverse. We changed filter and fluid and there was
    absolutley NO change in the symtom. He didn't want to try the throttle
    body clean fix so we took it to saturn with palns to replace the
    throttle body ($ 548 in parts and 200 something in labor.. it's a
    assembly replace now NOT just the body) After about 10 minutes of
    diagnostic time they said it was probably a loose bolt that is very
    common on these vehicles. The adjusted and tightened it and it has ran
    like new ever since. Totoal bill with tax was $72.13
    What a relief!!
     
    p_vouers, Feb 27, 2006
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    Chuck Guest

    Glad to hear you didn't get ripped off. More often than not, this
    problem is a loose input shaft nut. My Saturn dealer wanted $2300 to
    rebuilt the tranny on my '94 SW2 . I decided to try the valve body
    myself and wasted >$400. Another Saturn shop replaced the nut for
    $282. A while later, same problem on my '96 SL2. About $15 in parts
    and 5 hours later - problem solved. (Note: I also went crazy trying
    to find the right "S" tool to hold the input shaft while torquing the
    nut to 110 ft-lbs. - $150!. I hear a C-clamp will work.)
     
    Chuck, Mar 6, 2006
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    p_vouers Guest

    wow I did get a good deal.. that nut was the problem on my sons car..
    did take them quite some time because of the tool and all.
     
    p_vouers, Mar 7, 2006
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    CW Guest

    I'm having a similar problem with my Saturn and I was told it was going
    to cost over $1000 to fix the valve body.

    Can anyone recommend a Saturn dealer or repair shop in Long Island, New
    York?
     
    CW, Mar 9, 2006
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  11. Richard Davies

    Chuck Guest

    CW - Are you also getting some harsh shifting?
    Nassau or Suffolk? (Don't go to Hempstead - major league crooks!)
     
    Chuck, Mar 9, 2006
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  12. Richard Davies

    CW Guest

    We've heard a clunking/banging sound when changing gears for a long
    time. Now we have problems when switching into reverse (there is a
    delay), and there is a whirring noise coming from the transmission
    sometimes while driving.

    I can go anywhere in Nassau or Suffolk. I read through this usenet
    group and one post suggested it may be a loose input shaft nut. I'm
    currently being quoted $600+ just to tighten a loose input shaft nut
    and change the transmission fluid. The shop told me they have to open
    the transmission case to do the work.

    Any advice would be appreciated.
     
    CW, Mar 9, 2006
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  13. Richard Davies

    CW Guest

    We've heard a clunking/banging sound when changing gears for a long
    time. Now we have problems when switching into reverse (there is a
    delay), and there is a whirring noise coming from the transmission
    sometimes while driving.

    I can go anywhere in Nassau or Suffolk. I read through this usenet
    group and one post suggested it may be a loose input shaft nut. I'm
    currently being quoted $600+ just to tighten a loose input shaft nut
    and change the transmission fluid. The shop told me they have to open
    the transmission case to do the work.

    Any advice would be appreciated.
     
    CW, Mar 9, 2006
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  14. Richard Davies

    Chuck Guest

    I don't remember any noise when it shifted, just a rather harsh jolt -
    I think from 2nd to 3rd. And the harsh shift and delayed/no reverse
    came on at the same time and all of a sudden. After doing the job
    myself, $600 doesn't seem all THAT unreasonable. The tranny doesn't
    have to come out and the only parts required are the nut (it has to be
    replaced, not just tightened) and the cover gasket, but the job pretty
    much sucks. You have to lower the engine a tad to get at the top cover
    bolt. You have to break the ball joint to swing the strut out of the
    way a little. (There's a tube attached to the cover which requires the
    cover to be pulled straight away from the engine quite a bit - the
    strut is in the way). You need a thin-wall 23mm socket to get at the
    nut. If you have experience and are a fast worker, I have to believe
    it's at least a 3 hr. job.
     
    Chuck, Mar 9, 2006
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