96 sl2 tranny problems

Discussion in 'Saturn S-series' started by christianone, Aug 4, 2005.

  1. christianone

    christianone Guest

    I have a 1996 SL2 automatic. It developed "hard" shifts around 94k miles, a
    few months ago. I have at a ATRA certified shop checking it out. They said
    first that the seleniod (sp?) valve assembly needed replaced, specifically
    the pressure valve selenoid. Once they started on the job the said the
    found a loose wire connection, fixed it and put it on the scanner and
    found no codes for the seleniods, in fact no codes at all. He gave me the
    ATRA technical bulletin #635 which explains the learn-in driving
    procedure. I was to first disconnect the battery overnite which I did. I
    followed it step by step and now it makes bad noises when it shifts, and
    the shifts are still harsh. Has this happened to anyone else before? I'm
    not sure if the repair shop just dosen't know what there doing or what.
    Pls help!
     
    christianone, Aug 4, 2005
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  2. christianone

    Shawn Guest

    I had a valve body replaced in a 95 sl1. After it was done, it shifted hard.
    The Saturn tech told me I can drive it like this for a while and eventually
    it would go when the computer figures out your driving habits.
    I did for a few hours, but didn't like it, I then bought it to the
    dealership and they hooked up the handheld computer and programed it. The
    harsh shifting dissapeared. But, I was told again, that it would of
    eventually went once the driving habits were picked up by the computer.
    Go figure.
     
    Shawn, Aug 4, 2005
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  3. christianone

    Bob Shuman Guest

    I replaced a pressure solenoid in my son's '96 Saturn SL1 back around March
    IIRC. Check this newsgroup's archives for details. Finding the bad
    solenoid is a breeze. All you need is an ohm meter and a 7mm socket wrench
    to remove the electrical connector. It is easy to get at. The connector
    has 10 pins and they go to 5 solenoids which are all identical. If you
    measure resistance across adjacent pins you should see 4-8 ohms for each
    solenoid if it is good. In my case, the pressure boost solenoid measured
    1500 ohms and all others were 4-4.5. I opened the trans and replaced only
    the single bad solenoid and the cover gasket (~$50 or so at the dealer) and
    all was well and has been since then. By the way, local trans place didn't
    have a clue how to diagnose this since the trans computer did not register
    any problem codes. The only symptom was the terribly harsh shifting across
    all gears.

    Good luck.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Aug 4, 2005
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  4. christianone

    christianone Guest

    thanks Bob, It sounds like I'm having the same problem. I disconnected the
    battery lastnite and recennected today and just drove it normal. It seemed
    better at first but eventually it went back to the harsh shifts. Are you
    far from maryland, you made it sound so easy I'l like to get you to do it
    for me.
     
    christianone, Aug 5, 2005
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  5. christianone

    christianone Guest

    Bob, I forgot to ask you where is this connector located?
     
    christianone, Aug 5, 2005
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  6. christianone

    Bob Shuman Guest

    The connector is in the top of the transmission under the air intake.
    Pretty much directly in front of the driver side of the firewall. You won't
    miss it... it is the only umbilical cable going into the top transaxle
    cover. There is a single small metric bolt... 7mm as I recall to unscrew
    and then the connector pops right out. Measure resistance on adjacent pins.
    As I recall they start in one corner and go around in a clockwise or CCW
    fashion. Measure resistance from 1 to 2, then 3 to 4, then 5 to 6, etc.
    There are 5 sets so 10 pins in the connector. The resistance should be
    fairly common and between 4 and 8 ohms depending on the temperature of the
    trans. I hope this is what is causing your problem as it was not
    particularly difficult to fix. The biggest pain is scraping off the old
    gasket and not letting it fall INTO the opened transmission since the cover
    comes off from the top side! (Most transmission pans come off from the
    bottom so scraping is not an issue...

    I am in Illinois so won't be of much help. By the way, before I did the
    trans, I had replaced the torque axis mount on the top side of the engine.
    That helped reduce movement and improved shifting some, but did not correct
    the problem. I only mention this here since I am not sure how bad/harsh
    your shifting is so it might be worth looking at.

    Good luck.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Aug 5, 2005
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