95 Saturn Transmission - Please Help!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Lentinman, Jul 17, 2004.

  1. Lentinman

    Lentinman Guest

    I have a 95 Saturn. Over the last couple months, the time it takes it to
    shift in or out of reverse has gotten longer and longer. Now, it might be
    as much as 2 seconds sometimes. I read about this problem somewhere a few
    weeks ago and I believe someone said that changing the fluid to a
    particular brand could help. Any ideas? Thanks.

    Len
     
    Lentinman, Jul 17, 2004
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    Ritz Guest

    Just change the fluid. Get a new filter from the dealer, dump the
    fluid, and then refill. If you want "the good stuff," refill with Mobil
    1 synthetic Dexron III fluid. One of the benefits of Saturn ownership
    is the ability to change the transmission fluid/filter without having to
    drop the pan.

    Wow, in doing a quick search I can't believe Steve Scharf is STILL
    around spewing anti-Saturn bile. That's got to be some sort of troll
    record.

    Cheers,
     
    Ritz, Jul 18, 2004
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    Blah Blah Guest

    Before dumping the fluid consider checking the level first. We dont
    know if you done that. Its better to try doing a little diagnosing
    before you destroy any obvious clues. The transmission should be checked
    while its hot - running - and on level ground. My guess would be the
    valve bodies wearing out and simple fluid changes dont restore metal.
    Something thicker can take up the gaps in the worn parts though. I have
    no recommendations on any miracle fluid through...
     
    Blah Blah, Jul 18, 2004
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  4. Lentinman

    Lentinman Guest

    Ritz:

    First of all, THANKS. I am fairly moronic on cars. Do you mean to imply
    that I could change it myself if I got a new filter from the dealer?

    Also, I went to Pep Boys today after I posted this as I was at Best Buy
    and it took a good 2 seconds to go into drive after I backed out of the
    parking place. I bought something called TVF (Trans Valve Fix) "For use in
    Engines, Transmissions and Gearboxes". It says to add one full bottle to
    transmission fluid. I added about half a bottle (8 ounces). I drove quite
    a bit after that, but made sure to not park where I would have to put it
    in reverse. So, I don't have any data yet on whether it helped or not.

    What is your opinion of this type of stuff? There was another brand right
    next to it that said "anti slip" or something like that for transmissions.
    I just chose this one.

    Also, who is Steve Scharf and why include him in the response?

    Thanks Again,

    Len
     
    Lentinman, Jul 18, 2004
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    Lentinman Guest

    I checked the fluid (hot) and it was full - I think. I have checked it on
    an off for a long time and it was always full. The reason I say "I think"
    is because I can see fluid above where it is supposed to be, but no
    obvious line like oil. It DOES seem like I used to be able to tell easier.
    I haven't changed the transmission fluid in awhile so I guess I will do
    that. Thanks!

    Len
     
    Lentinman, Jul 18, 2004
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    Ritz Guest

    Absolutely. The filter is external and can be removed just like an oil
    filter (as a matter of fact it looks exactly like an oil filter).
    As a general rule, I don't recommend ANY of those snake oil elixirs.
    With very few exceptions, they don't work and are just a waste of your
    hard earned money.
    Oh, just some jackass. If morbid curiosity gets the best of you, check
    out deja.com and do a search. Reader's digest version: dishonest
    individual with an axe to grind. He's incredibly persistent (been
    posting misinformation for nearly 10 years). Just ignore him.

    Cheers,
     
    Ritz, Jul 18, 2004
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    Blah Blah Guest

    Dont overfill it. There is a operation range that the level should fall
    into. Might look like this |XXXX| with maybe some holes in it. If you
    overfill it the fluid will get aerated. It may be a good idea to go
    through your owners manual again, or er for the first time perhaps.
     
    Blah Blah, Jul 18, 2004
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    Lane Guest

    The symptoms you have occur when the transmission valve body goes bad. Do a
    google groups search on this group for 'valve body' as this has been
    discussed here at length in the past.

    Lane [ l a n e @ p a i r . c o m ]
     
    Lane, Jul 18, 2004
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    James1549 Guest

    You can do a trans fluid and filter change very easy. Actually it is easier to
    change the trans fluid/ filter than the engine oil/filter due to location.

    I would do the service but it sounds like you need some repair to the valve
    body. It does require some mechanical know-how to do that.

    From what I understand, this is a common problem for those that don't service
    the trans as recommended. Tarnish builds up on a particular spool valve causing
    it to stick, and eventually causing damage to the valve body. Replacing the
    fluid on schedule will greatly reduce this problem.

    I change my trans fluid and filter every 15K miles. So far so good. Very easy
    and great preventive maintenance.

    James
     
    James1549, Jul 18, 2004
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    Frank Ciuca Guest

    Yupp, I would say its the valve body. Like Lane said, this is a very
    common problem with saturns from those years. My car was doing the same
    thing, I also found out it was the valve body. Dealership offered to
    replace that for 700 dollars, I opted to have the whole transmission
    replaced for about 1300 at a transmission shop. I retrospect I think i
    think i should have just replaced the valve body at the dealership, the
    transmission place was a hassle to deal with.

    Anyway, when you decide to get it done, call a few dealerships for the
    prices on valve bodies. I live in the Detroit area, and some
    dealerships charged 400 dollars for a valve body, while others charged
    600 for the exact same thing. I was amazed, i thought dealerships had a
    fixed cost for this kind of thing.




     
    Frank Ciuca, Jul 18, 2004
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