2005 Saturn Vue

Discussion in 'Saturn VUE' started by Jacques, Mar 5, 2005.

  1. Jacques

    Jacques Guest

    I'm thiking about buying a midsize SUV to pull my boat (2700 lb with
    trailer). I see a lot of Jeep Libertys, Ford Escapes, etc., with a trailer
    hitch but never Saturn Vues. Anybody with experience using a Vue with a
    hitch pulling around 3000 lb? Thanks. jrf
    Jacques, Mar 5, 2005
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  2. Jacques

    The Real Tom Guest

    If you haven't bought the vue yet, you want to research it more.
    We've seen vue's being advertised by local dealers for 0% interest.
    Makes me leary why they have to sell the vehicle so hard.

    just thinking out loud.....

    tom @ www.ChopURL.com
    The Real Tom, Mar 5, 2005
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  3. Jacques

    B. Peg Guest

    Part of the reason is that everyone else is offering large dollar discounts
    and Saturn doesn't budge (often) on the sticker, hence lower interest to
    make up for it.

    Personally, I cannot stand the inside plastic door panels which look cheap.
    That is going to rattle in a few years once the heat molds the plastic into
    a form-fitting shape and then the rattles will come (my SL2 seat-belt
    adjuster cover panel is driving me crazy!).

    Too bad they don't paint the bumpers to match the body, excluding the
    Redline model with it's few color picks. Reminds me of the cheaper SL with
    black bumpers verses the more expensive SL with the painted ones.

    B. Peg, Mar 5, 2005
  4. Jacques

    marx404 Guest

    To answer your question, the MAX that a V6 VUE can pull is 2500lbs, and that
    is considering total weight including occupants of the car.

    If you are pulling 3K lbs, you need to look at a more serious utility type

    marx404, Mar 6, 2005
  5. Jacques

    rufus Guest

    I prefer the unpainted ones. There's no paint to get scratched.
    rufus, Mar 6, 2005
  6. I don't have a Vue, but my retired parents ordered theirs with a factory
    installed class one hitch on their V6 AWD. I can't tell you how it tows,
    because I haven't towed with it, but it seems that at least the V6 Vue has
    the factory "OK" to tow.

    However, as with any tow vehicle, to me one of the more important factors
    with towing anything besides drivetrain/suspension ability is the wheelbase
    length. The vehicles you described are NOT midsize SUV's, but the
    small/mini size. I personally wouldn't tow anything other than maybe a 4X8
    utility trailer for dirt bikes and waverunners, etc with any of the "mini"
    SUV's (esp on highways - A nice crosswind will have you fighting and swaying
    all over, never-the-less stopping capability). bigger Boats, large pop-ups,
    small camping trailers are good for the bigger mid SUV's (blazer, explorers,
    Durango). Then you get into the large (Expedition, full size Pick-ups, etc)
    for anything else....Just my opinion....

    Scott MacIntyre, Mar 7, 2005
  7. Jacques

    C. E. White Guest

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "The Real Tom" <Tom @ www.WorkAtHomePlans.com>
    Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.saturn
    Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 10:01 AM
    Subject: Re: 2005 Saturn Vue

    So what vehicle don't you worry about? Virtually all SUVs (except for high
    priced German ones) have rebates and/or special financing.


    Ed White
    C. E. White, Mar 8, 2005
  8. Actually the V6 is rated to 3500lbs.


    However, I am not sure I could see that much being towed behind the car,
    because it is so short. Also it is FWD so even the AWD model will mostly be
    putting the power to the front wheels.

    We have had ours since 1/2 and my wife really likes it. I've driven it a
    few times and - except for the smallish size - it feels great and seems

    Let's not forget, too, that beautiful Honda engine. I'm sure it'll last
    longer than the POS Vortec 4300 I had on my Jimmy.

    kai - - www.perfectreign.com

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    Perfect Reign, Mar 8, 2005
  9. Amen on the V6 -- have had mine about a month and only have the following
    negative feedback...
    1) wish all cars co$t le$$, especially the ones I buy
    2) wish all cars got better fuel economy, especially the ones I buy
    3) my VUE is a "red line" with leather interior and because it handles
    fairly well I wish Saturn had put seats with a little more lateral
    support into the red line. I don't try to drive it beyond reasonable
    limits (except once in a while when all alone) -- but the lateral support
    issue surfaces before any concern about suspension & body roll, lack of
    feedback thru the wheel, etc.
    Nada Effinway, Mar 9, 2005
  10. Jacques

    blah blah Guest

    Are you kidding? The 4.3 sounds like a reflection of ones ownership and
    that Honda engine is a trash design! I cant stand maintenance on those!
    Japanese engineers are inconsiderate to mechanics and dont consider we
    keep licencing our cars after 3 years. The 4.3's were damn cheap to
    maintain and hauled ass without mashing the gas.
    blah blah, Mar 9, 2005
  11. I should specify - I had one of the early CPI models - a '95 Jimmy. In the
    six or so years I owned it I went through three fuel injector spider
    units, two EGR valve units a head replacement, valve replacements power
    steering pump, water pump, and an alternator. All that in a mere 145K
    miles. By comparison, I put 120K miles on my Z24 Nissan engine and only
    adjusted a throttle valve once.

    I really wish I had one of the TBI units
    from '94 and earlier, cause they were so much more reliable, AFAIK.
    Perfect Reign, Mar 9, 2005
  12. That RedLine looks like a nice car! I would've sprung for it but this is
    the wife's car and she wanted a regular V6. She did go for 17" tires
    though. Darn things are huge!
    Perfect Reign, Mar 9, 2005
  13. Jacques

    blah blah Guest

    Wait till you have to get the water pump on the 3.5 replaced... I'll
    trust the timing chain in the jimmy for 800k before I trust the timing
    belt in the honda or nissan for 10k. I havent heard or seen hardly any
    problems with CSMPFI (Injector Spider unit) other than sticking poppit
    valves. What did your's do to warrent replacing so many times???

    Alternators for GM cars are cheap and usually only go bad when the
    battery goes bad or is discharged to many times. Water pumps are easy to
    replace on 4.3s and they seldom become a problem unless you go past the
    coolant change interval.

    "EGR valve units a head replacement, valve replacements power steering
    pump" Didnt follow any of that. EGR's can be cleaned though.
    blah blah, Mar 9, 2005
  14. Hmmm, hadn't seen anything when I googled. What is the cost that you know?
    Well, we'll see on this one. Fortunately they gave us a 5/60 plan in the
    Exactly those. The CSMPFI unit was later than mine. My unit was a CPFI
    model. It was the first year of that unit, which replaced the TBI
    "injector" from '94. On several occasions, the valves clogged and the
    cylinder would go dry. Apparently on one of the occasions, cylinder 5 was
    firing with no fuel and this caused (somehow) the valve guides to go bad. I
    ended up needing a new valve guide and cover at that point. This was the
    third CPI unit - replaced at around 120K. The first was replaced at 70K and
    the second at 100K.

    I did clean the EGR regularly. I used to go the route of putting sea foam
    in the vacumn hose, like GM recommended. At around 75K teh first unit went
    bad and I tried to limp along with the sea foam solution. I eventually
    replaced it. It then went bad again at around 130K

    kai - - www.perfectreign.com

    kai:/> format a:
    Error: The DOS concept of formatting disk media is screwed.
    To format a floppy, use "fdformat /dev/fd0"
    and then "mkfs.minix /dev/fd0".
    Perfect Reign, Mar 9, 2005
  15. Jacques

    blah blah Guest

    A bunch considering all the timing belt crap has to come off first. I
    dont have the "Labor Time Guide" for this but I est it to be in the 300-
    500 dollar range just in labor. My personal GM LTG only goes from 96-01
    and doesnt cover saturns.

    You should follow the severe use interval for your timing belt or split
    the difference.
    If they just clogged then it required no replacement. A pressurized
    injector cleaner would clean those right out.
    I've never seen such problems. Kind of sounds like some upselling took
    place? The only majore issues I've seen with that era of s/t platforms
    have been worn valve bodies and leaking lower intake manifold gaskets,
    which lead to brown coolant with people to inept to check their cooling
    system. The 95-96 4.3's were a test bed for the 1997 5.3/5.7 vortecs and
    those are good engines.
    blah blah, Mar 9, 2005
  16. I wish. I actually took it in to two mechanics - the one who did that work
    has been working on my father-in-law's '86 Chevy Van 20 since forever.
    Never had a cooling issue. OTOH, GM had so many complaints about this
    model engine that they ended up giving warranties to 100K for parts. I
    took adavantage of it once, since the darn spider unit cost IIRC $500
    without labor.

    Other than the engine issues and a minor power window
    issue, I really liked driving that little truck.

    And I shouldn't complain too much. I did put on 145K miles in six years.


    I do miss having a truck.

    All I've got now is a minivan and the vue.
    Perfect Reign, Mar 10, 2005
  17. Jacques

    Paul Elliot Guest

    I've had my 2004 Vue V6 AWD since 11/03 and still love it. The engine is
    a delight, very good acceleration and smooth. I have almost 25,000 miles
    on it with only one problem (RDM replacement) which was handles under
    warranty. I have the 0% GMAC loan which is great and Saturn gets to make
    a reasonable profit on the vehicle on the initial sale.
    04 Vue V6 AWD
    05 Relay 3
    Paul Elliot, Mar 18, 2005
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