2002 LW300 A/C clutch

Discussion in 'Saturn L-series' started by Dana Rohleder, Apr 20, 2005.

  1. I can't seem to activate my A/C clutch. When I turn on the switch with
    engine idling, there is a slight increase in RPM, which is normal, and
    indicates the switch is working. I tested the relay (switched with the horn
    relay) and it is working fine. The 10A fuse is not blown. Would the A/C
    diode 'fuse' cause this problem? I wouldn't think so. I don't know how to
    test the diode, but I found it doesn't have continuity, which I suspect is
    normal. Anyone know how to check the diode? If the diode is OK, are there
    any other things to check before testing the clutch itself? What is the best
    way to test the clutch?

    --
    Dana

    In terms of timetables, as quickly as possible-whatever that means."-On the
    president's time frame for shoring up Social Security, Washington D.C.,
    March 16, 2005
     
    Dana Rohleder, Apr 20, 2005
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  2. Dana Rohleder

    Oppie Guest

    The diode is just to protect the electronics from the 'inductive kick' of
    turning off the clutch electromagnet. Many digital voltmeters have a diode
    test function but with most simple ohmmeters, the diode may test open.
    Biggest problem is if the diode is shorted. (diodes are supposed to pass
    current in one direction only)
    Pull the connector at the clutch and test with an ohmmeter for continuity
    first. Should be something like 10 Ohms (just off the top of my head). If
    there is no continuity, the coil is open and the clutch needs to be
    replaced. If there is continuity, get some jumper leads and ground one side
    of the clutch coil. Connect the other lead to battery+. (engine is off for
    this test). Clutch should activate and pull in the armature. If the clutch
    still does not activate, the gap between armature and stator is too much and
    the clutch needs to be replaced. If it does pull in, check further back in
    the electronics.
    Hope this helps.
    Oppie (2001 LW300)

    ps - I have the 00-01 shop manual if you need any diagrams.
     
    Oppie, Apr 20, 2005
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  3. Thanks! Next question, could there be something else locking it out - for
    instance, the ambient temperature switch malfunctioning or the switch that
    disengages the clutch on hard acceleration, or is that all done by the ECM?
     
    Dana Rohleder, Apr 20, 2005
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  4. Dana Rohleder

    Bob Shuman Guest

    The most common cause of this symptom is low refrigerant. The AC compressor
    is protected by a low pressure cutout switch which prevents the clutch from
    activating if the pressure is too low so that the unit does not self
    destruct by running without sufficient refrigerant. I do not know about
    this model Saturn, but many times you can pull the pressure cutout switch
    connector and jumper across the contacts and then see if the clutch engages.
    If it does, then do not run it more than a few seconds. It means the system
    is leaking or (less probable) that the switch is bad.

    Good luck and report what you learn for others to benefit.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Apr 20, 2005
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  5. Dana Rohleder

    Oppie Guest

    True, Low refrigerant pressure can cause the evaporator to ice up (or worse)
    so there is protection for low gas pressure. There should also be either a
    superheat sensor or an ambient temperature sense somewhere that will shut
    down the compressor below a certain temperature to protect it. Low ambient
    temperatures might cause liquid refrigerant to be returned to the
    compressor. That both dilutes the oil in the compressor sump and can destroy
    the compressor if the liquid is pulled into the cylinders. (just like water
    ingestion will kill a running engine...you just can't compress a liquid). By
    design, the liquid refrigerant is supposed to all boil off into gas in the
    evaporator and return only gas to the compressor.
    Thankfully, my lw300 has been running well and I haven't gotten into the
    specifics of the sensors
    ..
     
    Oppie, Apr 21, 2005
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