1996 SL2 Engine Value

Discussion in 'Saturn S-series' started by Gclanman, Jan 27, 2008.

  1. Gclanman

    Gclanman Guest

    I've got a 1996 SL2 that has a dealer installed, factory made engine
    with about 40,000 miles on it. Oil changes at 3,000 miles etc., since
    we had this done. The rest of the car is in fair shape, but I think
    the engine would be worth the most to an enthusiast. Anyone have any
    idea what the $$ value is for just the engine? I'm not looking to part
    the car out, once I sell it, it goes out of the driveway in one piece.
    The glass, door panels, tranny are all in good shape too. Overall
    miles on the car are about 180,000.
     
    Gclanman, Jan 27, 2008
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    Gyzmologist Guest

    Same value as a junk yard engine. Check around and see what they are
    selling for in your area.
     
    Gyzmologist, Jan 29, 2008
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    Gclanman Guest

    I don't think you quite understand. This engine has all of the dealers
    invoices, additional things they did for the installation (other new
    parts, etc). It's not out of a wrecked car, it's a very well
    documented engine. You won't get any documentation at a junkyard, and
    have no idea about the engine except that it's from that year and
    make.
     
    Gclanman, Jan 29, 2008
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    DLR Guest

    But can folks drive the car and actually test the engine or are you offering a warranty? You can document the engine at the time you bought it but how to they know it doesn't NOW have a bad rod bearing?

    David
     
    DLR, Jan 29, 2008
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    I concur. It may be worth slightly more than a junk yard engine, but not
    anything near what YOU paid for it. These engines are fairly readily
    available and last a long time, even if they do consume a lot of oil as they
    age. (Demand would seem to be fairly low and supply relatively high.)

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Jan 30, 2008
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    Gclanman Guest

    Sure, they can drive it and test the engine. The engine runs quite
    well, and no, I don't offer a warranty (and I don't think junkyards do
    either). All I'm saying is that it's a Saturn manufactured, dealer
    installed engine with documentation to that effect. How do I know it
    doesn't have X or Y isn't the issue (anything can happen at anytime to
    anything or anyone), all I asked was what some enthusiast might think
    the value of the engine is, because I'm going to sell the car and that
    may have an impact on the selling price. Simple question, I didn't ask
    any other question, and I just think it may be worth more than one out
    of a wreck '96 with 200K on it.
     
    Gclanman, Jan 30, 2008
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    DLR Guest

    In rereading your original post I can see how I and likely other concluded the car was wreaked and you were selling it for parts. Not parting it yourself but selling it for parts. I'm guessing the car still runs but you're tired of the car and just want to sell it.

    Yes, an engine in the later situation would be worth more than a junk yard engine. As to how much more, I don't know.

    David
     
    DLR, Jan 30, 2008
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    Private Guest

    Most junkyards do not inspect their engines but rather offer a time limited
    money back guarantee. The result of this is that most customers do not
    realize they have bought a poor engine or an oil burner untill after it is
    installed and they have delivered the old core for credit. After they
    realize they have a poor engine, their original and probably rebuildable
    core is long gone, and it seems like too much work to remove the junkyard
    engine and return it to the yard so they just drive or sell the car as is.
    If they had known the engine was poor they would not invest time and money
    on the swap but once it is done it is seldom worth going back or trying a
    different engine from the same yard. The yard will consider this a
    'satisfied' customer and will claim that few of their engines are ever
    returned and it is a very cheap guarantee for them to offer as the customer
    does all the evaluation work for nothing. Caveat emptor.

    All I'm saying is that it's a Saturn manufactured,

    Is this a NEW engine? OR a Saturn dealer or factory (or third party
    'authorized'?) REmanufactured engine? A REmanufactured engine MAY be a
    standard rebuilt engine rebuilt to standard operating (used engine)
    tolerances OR it CAN be a rebuilt (used engine) rebuilt to new engine
    tolerances. Either can have rebored cylinders and/or reground crankshaft
    and MAY have many used parts such as camshafts or even pistons. Caveat
    emptor. The quality of any of these rebuilt engines is widely variable and
    few would consider them equal to a factory manufacured NEW engine built with
    ALL NEW parts AND factory quality control AND factory (NOT dealer) warranty.

    dealer
    Nobody will care who INSTALLED the engine and the only documentation that is
    of value is the ENGINE source documentation and any warranty that may be
    used by a subsequant buyer. Most warranties will only cover the original
    purchaser AND only when installed in the original vehicle but YMMV.

    How do I know it
    IMHO the engine will be worth the most IN a running and usable car, but
    YMMV. IF you find a buyer who needs the engine then they will probably be
    able to use lots of the other parts from the complete car and they will be
    able to drive the car for a while to check the engine condition and may even
    want to put their worn engine in your old car so they can sell it 'as is'.

    Good luck, YMMV
     
    Private, Jan 31, 2008
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    Gclanman Guest

    DLR, and Private: Thank you for taking the time to respond.

    DLR: you got it right that it's in a drivable, running car. My
    daughter has been driving it for the last few years and just decided
    to upgrade to a newer car. So now I have more cars than parking and
    drivers, time to sell.

    Private: Thanks for the time you put into your post, I will check and
    see where the dealer got the engine, My recollection is that it was
    from Saturn Corp., and not a rebuild, but new and to factory specs.
    Some very good points for me to double check throughout your post.

    Clanny
     
    Gclanman, Jan 31, 2008
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    p_vouers Guest

    the car with engine is worth from 2k to 2500 dollars. With a
    documented engine you might get the higher of the 2 values.
     
    p_vouers, Feb 1, 2008
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