1996 saturn head problem sohc

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by trollhunter, Dec 13, 2003.

  1. trollhunter

    trollhunter Guest

    1996 saturn sohc 1.9 liter
    put diaonostic computer on the car , getting misfire on cylinder #2 , then
    did a compreasion test , okey now we got problems . so take the head of the
    car , and one of the valves are shot (not that big of deal send out to get
    fix) so they tell me that the cam is beyond repair, okey so get me another
    cam (used) so the shop puts it in(you would think they would check the lobes
    to see if they where the same ) and i get the head back . cleaned up nice ,
    put the head on set timing to where it is suppose to be , put it all back to
    geather , now here is where the problem starts , with the plugs out i roll
    it over till i see i got oil preasure then i hear crack . (piss me off) so
    i take the cover off and there is two rocker arms busted off (ahhhhhhhhhh)
    they where all checked befor hand to make sure where all set right . and as
    they are self ajusting no problems there , my question is do you people
    think that maybe that the wrong cam got put in ? person said timeing , but
    all was set to spec and loke said no plugs where in it . so any help that
    you may be able to send my way would be very help full . thank you to all
    that reply :)
     
    trollhunter, Dec 13, 2003
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  2. trollhunter

    Dan Hicks Guest

    Sounds to me like the timing chain wasn't properly indexed.
     
    Dan Hicks, Dec 13, 2003
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  3. Whenever I have done anything to a car which would effect the timing, I
    always turn the engine over by hand using a breaker bar on the crankshaft
    nut. This way, if anything is going to bind up and break, I can feel it in
    my fingers before damaging anything. After spinning 360 degrees I can be
    confident that nothing is going to snap/crack/dent/ etc.

    -David
     
    David Teichholtz, Dec 13, 2003
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  4. trollhunter

    Dan Hicks Guest

    Except in this case the new cam may have had the wrong timing gear
    on it, meaning that you wouldn't notice a problem for several
    revolutions.
     
    Dan Hicks, Dec 14, 2003
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  5. trollhunter

    clutch Guest

    Two rev's

    Wes
     
    clutch, Dec 16, 2003
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  6. trollhunter

    Kirk Kohnen Guest

    I thought about David's comment a while and realized he's right. If the
    number of teeth on the camshaft sprocket is not exactly twice the number on
    the crankshaft sprocket, it could take several turns to ruin the engine.

    But, if you aren't an absolute idiot, and you put the correct sprockets into
    the car, then two turns is it.
     
    Kirk Kohnen, Dec 17, 2003
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  7. trollhunter

    Dan Hicks Guest

    Two revs for the right gear, to go entirely through a cycle. Would
    take more for the wrong gear. Say it's 38 teeth vs forty. Each rev
    of the crank is 1/2 rev of the cam. So each two revs of the crank
    advances the cam by two teeth. Figure that worst case is when the
    cam is 90 degrees out, or around 9 1/2 teeth. You'd need 9 1/2 revs
    of the crank to reach 90 degrees.
     
    Dan Hicks, Dec 17, 2003
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