1994 Saturn and oil

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by MattKenseth1711, Oct 14, 2004.

  1. Just curious on what the best brand of motor oil is for older saturns. I
    switched to Castro after having knuckle heads at Jiffy Lube changed it using
    Valvoline.
     
    MattKenseth1711, Oct 14, 2004
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  2. MattKenseth1711

    Bob Shuman Guest

    What don't you like about Valvoline?
     
    Bob Shuman, Oct 14, 2004
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  3. MattKenseth1711

    Blah blah Guest

    Well I dont think Fidel Castro wants to be shoved into your engine.
    You're throwing a fit over nothing. Any name brand oil with a api of SL
    or SJ will do fine so long as you change it. One of the best
    "synthetic" oils on the market is Mobil 1 and Valvoline Synthetic is
    nothing more than rebadged Mobil 1. Let me guess. You seen the Castrol
    commercial where they say "we compaired castrol syntec to other leading
    conventional oils and blah blah blah..." Hint, keywords: Syntec
    (synthetic) and Conventional (dino oil). Of course Castrol outpreformed
    other brands in that lame ass test.
     
    Blah blah, Oct 14, 2004
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  4. I have been using 15W40 Chevron Delo motor oil in my 96 SL for years.
    This oil is primarily for HD diesel engines, but I can get it for free
    at my place of work. I know some people reading this will say I'm a
    fool, but the Chevron engineers I talked to use the oil in their own
    cars, and I've got 110K on my engine, and it feels like it has the
    same power as when I bought it new. The engine doen not burn enough
    oil in 3000 miles to need any added between changes. I've never had
    any engine problems except lately I seem to have a bad sensor or EGR
    valve, and a few months ago I replaced the fuel injectors (unrelated
    to motor oil)

    It was explained to me that most big oil companies now use
    hydro-cracked base stocks, and the only real difference between motor
    oil brands is the additive package, and Delo has a proven package.

    I live in Phoenix, AZ where it is hot as hell, and I don't think the
    temp.even got to freezing last winter, and it gets up near 120 in the
    summer, so I feel the 15/40 doesn't hurt me at all, I'm not sure how
    it would work if you have to dig your Saturn out of a block of ice in
    the morning.





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    Larry Grapentine, Oct 15, 2004
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  5. valvoline has a relatively weak additive package. But it's not a "bad" oil,
    the only "bad" stuff is SF-rated "double X lube" sold at convenience stores
    and supermarkets.

    You can get more oil questions than you ever wanted answered at
    http://www.bobistheoilguy.com they like chevron, havoline, pennzoil for
    "standard" dino oil and argue rather incessantly over synthetics (but
    they're all at least good). :)

    Having used pennzoil Longlife 15w40 in the summer, I must say I liked how it
    ran, but it's way too thick for winter around here.
     
    Jeff McDonald, Oct 15, 2004
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  6. MattKenseth1711

    EDeneen Guest

    I ran whatever was at the nearest convenience store, in my 94SL, IMHO Oil is
    oil for this car. Luved mine, it ran 168,000 miles with Never, ever any major
    problem, got over 30 mpg, was cheap to insure & repair, and to be honest the
    last 80K, I did NO maintenance and ran the crap out of it. it did, and yours
    will, eat about a quart of oil every 2,000 miles like clockwork, I used the
    odometer like a dipstick- always 2K, 1qt, as it got older. Most realiable,
    practical car I have owned.
    It is what it is. It finally threw a rod or a bearing, in any case the engine
    croaked @168k, I was tired of it and it was showing its age anyway. Adios SL.
    Now in '04 Ion, it's growing on me, I'll keep ya posted...
    E
     
    EDeneen, Oct 15, 2004
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  7. MattKenseth1711

    Mark Guest

    Well, I have a '95 SL2 Saturn and have Zero oil consumption. It used
    to burn a quart every 2500 -2k miles like you say. After installing a
    bypass filter the problem went away! Currently has 145k miles on ODO.

    Here are some pictures of my installation:
    http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=000144

    A webpage for the US military:
    http://www.uscg.mil/SYSTEMS/GSE/P2OA.2-1-1.htm

    my 2 cents,

    Mark
     
    Mark, Oct 17, 2004
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  8. MattKenseth1711

    Ron Herfurth Guest

    So are you saying you didn't do any oil and filter changes in the last 80 K
    ?

    I'm at 105,000 and still do an oil & filter change every 3,000 miles but in
    between I have been adding a half quart every 1,000 miles. I just felt
    better topping it off every 1,000 miles than letting it get a full quart low
    then dumping it all just 1,000 miles later.
    I'd be in an 05 ION but they discontinued green when they made those 100 or
    so improvements so I'll nurse the 04 SL1 along for another year. Maybe in 06
    they'll offer a green Ion wagon with the speedometer in the middle...

    ron
     
    Ron Herfurth, Oct 18, 2004
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  9. MattKenseth1711

    Mark Guest

    I'm at 105,000 and still do an oil & filter change every 3,000 miles but in
    Good Idea. I've heard that when the oil is low the head doesn't get
    enough oil and the timing chain mechanism tightens the timing belt
    excessively - which wears the timing belt guide excessively.


    Mark
     
    Mark, Oct 18, 2004
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  10. MattKenseth1711

    EDeneen Guest

    So are you saying you didn't do any oil and filter changes in the last 80 K
    No, what I mean is I did no maintenance repairs, no mechanical work, none. I
    changed oil & filter every 5K miles.
     
    EDeneen, Oct 19, 2004
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